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Taking Jack Reacher to School

By Jim O’Neill
Once upon a time Jack Reacher was a mensch among men, an uber-mensch.  O how the mighty have fallen.
I recently read a tale of Reacher’s escapades (“Night School”) in which one of the main enemies he confronts consists of a group of “far-right” neo-Nazis.
Jack, Jack, Jack…and to think that I always considered you to be the smartest guy in the room.  To call neo-Nazis far-right is so wrong on so many levels that I hardly know where to begin.  Let’s start with some basics and take it from there.
The traditional Western political spectrum runs from massive centralized government on the extreme left, to increasingly smaller government as you move further right, to no government (anarchy) on the extreme right.
Bigger Government on the Left, Smaller Government on the right.  Bigger Government on the Left, Smaller Government on the Right.  Are we clear so far Reacher — I’m not going too fast?  Good.
We should note in passing that as government increases individual freedom decreases, and vice versa.
Let’s move on to fascism shall we?  Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) is widely credited with founding fascism.  Following are a couple of quotes from him:
For the Fascist, everything is in the State, and nothing human or spiritual exists, much less has value, outside the State.
All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State!
Let me Americanize those quotes in order to help elucidate things:
For the Fascist, everything is in the Federal Government, and nothing human or spiritual exists, much less has value, outside the Federal Government.
All within the Federal Government, nothing outside the Federal Government, nothing against the Federal Government!
Pop quiz Reacher: Do the above quotes sound like they come from someone on the left side of the political spectrum (Big Government), or someone on the right side of the political spectrum (Small Government)?  Take your time, I know it’s a real head-scratcher.
Bingo!  You are correct sir, it sounds like something someone from the left side of the political spectrum would say.  Maybe there is hope for you after all.
Fascism is a left-wing ideology all the way.  The “Spanish Civil War” (1936-1939) for example, was a left vs. left turf war – left-wing communism against left-wing fascism.  (Think Shia and Sunni Islam – same basic ideology, differing details, at each other’s throats).
Which brings us to the Nazis – a subset of fascism.  The Nazi political party was the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei).  Left-wing or right-wing?
Let me give you a hint Reacher – Socialist Workers Party.  Left-wing or right-wing?  Put it all together, come on I know you can do it.  The Nazis were and are a subset of fascism, which as we have seen is a left-wing (Big Government) ideology, and the operative words in the Nazi party label are “Socialist Workers Party” which means that the Nazis are….
Oh you’re close, it’s on the tip of your tongue I can tell.  That’s right!  The Nazis are left wing.  Atta boy, I knew you could do it.
One more teensy hurdle to jump and you’re home free Reacher.  If fascists and Nazis were, are, and always will be left-wing, then neo-Nazis are…?  Left-wing.  Correctamundo my man!  (You are on a roll Reacher.  If it’s not too much trouble I suggest you clue your pal Lee Child in on all this.  It’s what a friend would do).
Don’t feel too bad that you were duped by the Left for so many years – you have LOTS of company.  I did expect you to see through the lies, obfuscation, misdirection and smoke ‘n’ mirrors though.  Ah well, as I say, you have lots of company.
The late Oriana Fallaci – an undeniably bright and astute person – was also fooled by “this Left that gave birth to Mussolini then Hitler.”  Fallaci was an anti-fascist partisan during WW II, and an iconoclastic lifelong leftist.  Late in her life she compared the communists and fascists to two soccer teams that appeared to be in passionate opposition, but behind the scenes were working together hand in glove.
“And there are moments when I curse myself for not having understood it earlier; for having let myself be fooled by the two soccer-teams for so long.  Dammit.”
Oriana Fallaci “The Force of Reason” p.206
Are you with me so far Reacher, is everything copacetic?  Excellent.
Once one understands that fascism in general, and Nazism in particular were, are, and always will be, left-wing ideologies, then the scales drop from your eyes, heavenly choirs rejoice, and “I Saw the Light” will play in stereo surround-sound inside your head.  Well okay, maybe not that dramatic, but many previously muddled and perplexing incongruities will clear up and disappear.
That’s it for today’s lesson Jack.  Perhaps we will get together again and talk about the collusion between globalists and jihadists…you know, the collusion that is intentionally destroying western Europe’s nation statesThat one.  (The “useful idiots” are clueless about all this because, well, they’re idiots.  You are not an idiot are you Reacher?  No?  Good to hear).
You’re a smart guy Reacher; I am sure you will be able to figure things out for yourself, now that you know your left from your right.
 

REVEALED! Hundreds of George Soros Organizations

by Rev. Austin Miles


Self-professed Nazi war criminal George Soros continues to go free while radicalizing American politics and society, but not for long. The strategy to take him down is by first openly identifying the organizations he owns and funds. And here they are, finally, out in the open, more than 200 of them he created to sabotage the United States.
This will take time to read but it is worth the time to do so. Indeed it is essential that all read this to understand why this creature must be charged and prosecuted for treason and sedition. Many of the names of the organizations listed are deceptive and appear to be something good. Then look at the couple of lines under each which tells what that organization is actually about.
You will see (by) two Catholic organizations he formed that Soros has actually put the Vatican under his control. This will explain Pope Francis.
Both Soros and his Open Society Foundations provide funding directly or indirectly to over 200 US organizations. Some he owns outright. As you read these, prepare to be shocked:

  • Advancement Project: This organization works to organize “communities of color” into politically cohesive units while disseminating its leftist worldviews and values as broadly as possible by way of a sophisticated communications department.
  • Air America Radio: Now defunct, this was a self-identified “liberal” radio network.
  • Al-Haq: This NGO produces highly politicized reports, papers, books, and legal analyses regarding alleged Israeli human-rights abuses committed against Palestinians.
  • All of Us or None: This organization seeks to change voting laws — which vary from state to state — so as to allow ex-inmates, parolees, and even current inmates to cast their ballots in political elections.
  • Alliance for Justice: Best known for its activism vis-a-vis the appointment of federal judges, this group consistently depicts Republican judicial nominees as “extremists.”
  • America Coming Together: Soros played a major role in creating this group, whose purpose was to coordinate and organize pro-Democrat voter-mobilization programs.
  • America Votes: Soros also played a major role in creating this group, whose get-out-the-vote campaigns targeted likely Democratic voters.
  • America’s Voice: This open-borders group seeks to promote “comprehensive” immigration reform that includes a robust agenda in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens.
  • American Bar Association Commission on Immigration Policy: This organization “opposes laws that require employers and persons providing education, health care, or other social services to verify citizenship or immigration status.”
  • American Bridge 21st Century: This Super PAC conducts opposition research designed to help Democratic political candidates defeat their Republican foes.
  • American Civil Liberties Union: This group opposes virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by the U.S. government. It supports open borders, has rushed to the defense of suspected terrorists and their abettors, and appointed former New Left terrorist Bernardine Dohrn to its Advisory Board.
  • American Constitution Society for Law and Policy: This Washington, DC-based think tank seeks to move American jurisprudence to the left by recruiting, indoctrinating, and mobilizing young law students, helping them acquire positions of power. It also provides leftist Democrats with a bully pulpit from which to denounce their political adversaries.
  • American Family Voices: This group creates and coordinates media campaigns charging Republicans with wrongdoing.
  • American Federation of Teachers: After longtime AFT President Albert Shanker died in 1997, he was succeeded by Sandra Feldman, who slowly “re-branded” the union, allying it with some of the most powerful left-wing elements of the New Labor Movement. When Feldman died in 2004, Edward McElroy took her place, followed by Randi Weingarten in 2008. All of them kept the union on the leftward course it had adopted in its post-Shanker period.
  • American Friends Service Committee: This group views the United States as the principal cause of human suffering around the world. As such, it favors America’s unilateral disarmament, the dissolution of American borders, amnesty for illegal aliens, the abolition of the death penalty, and the repeal of the Patriot Act.
  • American Immigration Council: This non-profit organization is a prominent member of the open-borders lobby. It advocates expanded rights and amnesty for illegal aliens residing in the U.S.
  • American Immigration Law Foundation: This group supports amnesty for illegal aliens, on whose behalf it litigated against the U.S. government.
  • American Independent News Network: This organization promotes “impact journalism” that advocates progressive change.
  • American Institute for Social Justice: AISJ’s goal is to produce skilled community organizers who can “transform poor communities” by agitating for increased government spending on city services, drug interdiction, crime prevention, housing, public-sector jobs, access to healthcare, and public schools.
  • American Library Association: This group has been an outspoken critic of the Bush administration’s War on Terror — most particularly, Section 215 of the USA Patriot Act, which it calls “a present danger to the constitutional rights and privacy rights of library users.”
  • The American Prospect, Inc.: This corporation trains and mentors young leftwing journalists, and organizes strategy meetings for leftist leaders.
  • Amnesty International: This organization directs a grossly disproportionate share of its criticism for human rights violations at the United States and Israel.
  • Applied Research Center: Viewing the United States as a nation where “structural racism” is deeply “embedded in the fabric of society,” ARC seeks to “build a fair and equal society” by demanding “concrete change from our most powerful institutions.”
  • Arab American Institute Foundation: The Arab American Institute denounces the purportedly widespread civil liberties violations directed against Arab Americans in the post-9/11 period, and characterizes Israel as a brutal oppressor of the Palestinian people.
  • Aspen Institute: This organization promotes radical environmentalism and views America as a nation plagued by deep-seated “structural racism.”
  • Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now: This group conducts voter mobilization drives on behalf of leftist Democrats. These initiatives have been notoriously marred by fraud and corruption.
  • Ballot Initiative Strategy Center: This organization seeks to advance “a national progressive strategy” by means of ballot measures—state-level legislative proposals that pass successfully through a petition (“initiative”) process and are then voted upon by the public.
  • Bend The Arc: A Jewish Partnership for Justice: This organization condemns Voter ID laws as barriers that “make it harder for communities of color, women, first-time voters, the elderly, and the poor to cast their vote.”
  • Bill of Rights Defense Committee: This group provides a detailed blueprint for activists interested in getting their local towns, cities, and even college campuses to publicly declare their opposition to the Patriot Act, and to designate themselves “Civil Liberties Safe Zones.” The organization also came to the defense of self-described radical attorney Lynne Stewart, who was convicted in 2005 of providing material support for terrorism.
  • Black Alliance for Just Immigration: This organization seeks to create a unified movement for “social and economic justice” centered on black racial identity.
  • Blueprint North Carolina: This group seeks to “influence state policy in North Carolina so that residents of the state benefit from more progressive policies such as better access to health care, higher wages, more affordable housing, a safer, cleaner environment, and access to reproductive health services.”
  • Brennan Center for Justice: This think tank/legal activist group generates scholarly studies, mounts media campaigns, files amicus briefs, gives pro bono support to activists, and litigated test cases in pursuit of radical “change.”
  • Brookings Institution: This organization has been involved with a variety of internationalist and state-sponsored programs, including one that aspires to facilitate the establishment of a U.N.-dominated world government. Brookings Fellows have also called for additional global collaboration on trade and banking; the expansion of the Kyoto Protocol; and nationalized health insurance for children. Nine Brookings economists signed a petition opposing President Bush’s tax cuts in 2003.
  • Campaign for America’s Future: This group supports tax hikes, socialized medicine, and a dramatic expansion of social welfare programs.
  • Campaign for Better Health Care: This organization favors a single-payer, government-run, universal health care system.
  • Campaign for Youth Justice: This organization contends that “transferring juveniles to the adult criminal-justice system leads to higher rates of recidivism, puts incarcerated and detained youth at unnecessary risk, has little deterrence value, and does not increase public safety.”
  • Campus Progress: A project of the Soros bankrolled Center for American Progress, this group seeks to “strengthen progressive voices on college and university campuses, counter the growing influence of right-wing groups on campus, and empower new generations of progressive leaders.”
  • Casa de Maryland: This organization aggressively lobbies legislators to vote in favor of policies that promote expanded rights, including amnesty, for illegal aliens currently residing in the United States.
  • Catalist: This is a for-profit political consultancy that seeks “to help progressive organizations realize measurable increases in civic participation and electoral success by building and operating a robust national voter database of every voting-age American.”
  • Catholics for Choice: This nominally Catholic organization supports women’s right to abortion-on-demand.
  • Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good: This political nonprofit group is dedicated to generating support from the Catholic community for leftwing candidates, causes, and legislation.
  • Center for American Progress: This leftist think tank is headed by former Clintonchief of staff John Podesta, works closely with Hillary Clinton, and employs numerous former Clinton administration staffers. It is committed to “developing a long-term vision of a progressive America” and “providing a forum to generate new progressive ideas and policy proposals.”
  • Center for Community Change: This group recruits and trains activists to spearhead leftist “political issue campaigns.” Promoting increased funding for social welfare programs by bringing “attention to major national issues related to poverty,” the Center bases its training programs on the techniques taught by the famed radical organizer Saul Alinsky.
  • Center for Constitutional Rights: This pro-Castro organization is a core member of the open borders lobby, has opposed virtually all post-9/11 anti-terrorism measures by the U.S. government, and alleges that American injustice provokes acts of international terrorism.
  • Center for Economic and Policy Research: This group opposed welfare reform, supports “living wage” laws, rejects tax cuts, and consistently lauds the professed achievements of socialist regimes, most notably Venezuela.
  • Center for International Policy: This organization uses advocacy, policy research, media outreach, and educational initiatives to promote “transparency and accountability” in U.S. foreign policy and global relations. It generally views America as a disruptive, negative force in the world.
  • Center for Reproductive Rights: CRR’s mission is to guarantee safe, affordable contraception and abortion-on-demand for all women, including adolescents. The organization has filed state and federal lawsuits demanding access to taxpayer-funded abortions (through Medicaid) for low-income women.
  • Center for Responsible Lending: This organization was a major player in the subprime mortgage crisis. According to Phil Kerpen (vice president for policy at Americans for Prosperity), CRL “sh[ook] down and harass[ed] banks into making bad loans to unqualified borrowers.” Moreover, CRL negotiated a contract enabling it to operate as a conduit of high-risk loans to Fannie Mae.
  • Center for Social Inclusion: This organization seeks to counteract America’s “structural racism” by means of taxpayer-funded policy initiatives.
  • Center on Budget and Policy Priorities: Reasoning from the premise that tax cuts generally help only the wealthy, this organization advocates greater tax expenditures on social welfare programsfor low earners.
  • Center on Wisconsin Strategy (COWS): Aiming to redistribute wealth by way of higher taxes imposed on those whose incomes are above average, COWS contends that “it is important that state government be able to harness fair contribution from all parts of society – including corporations and the wealthy.”
  • Change America Now: Formed in December 2006, Change America Now describes itself as “an independent political organization created to educate citizens on the failed policies of the Republican Congress and to contrast that record of failure with the promise offered by a Democratic agenda.”
  • Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington: This group litigates and brings ethics charges against “government officials who sacrifice the common good to special interests” and “betray the public trust.” Almost all of its targets are Republicans.
  • Coalition for an International Criminal Court: This group seeks to subordinate American criminal-justice procedures to those of an international court.
  • Color Of Change: This organization was founded to combat what it viewed as the systemic racism pervading America generally and conservatism in particular.
  • Common Cause: This organization aims to bring about campaign-finance reform, pursue media reform resembling the Fairness Doctrine, and cut military budgets in favor of increased social-welfare and environmental spending.
  • Constitution Project: This organization seeks to challenge the legality of military commissions; end the detainment of “enemy combatants”; condemn government surveillance of terrorists; and limit the President’s executive privileges.
  • Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund: Defenders of Wildlife opposes oil exploration in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It condemns logging, ranching, mining, and even the use of recreational motorized vehicles as activities that are destructive to the environment.
  • Democracy Alliance: This self-described “liberal organization” aims to raise $200 million to develop a funding clearinghouse for leftist groups. Soros is a major donor to this group.
  • Democracy 21: This group is a staunch supporter of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, also known as the McCain-Feingold
  • Democracy Now!: Democracy Now! was created in 1996 by WBAI radio news director Amy Goodman and four partners to provide “perspectives rarely heard in the U.S. corporate-sponsored media,” i.e., the views of radical and foreign journalists, left and labor activists, and ideological foes of capitalism.
  • Democratic Justice Fund: DJF opposes the Patriot Act and most efforts to restrict or regulate immigration into the United States — particularly from countries designated by the State Department as “terrorist nations.”
  • Democratic Party: Soros’ funding activities are devoted largely to helping the Democratic Party solidify its power base. In a November 2003 interview, Soros stated that defeating President Bush in 2004 “is the central focus of my life” … “a matter of life and death.” He pledged to raise $75 million to defeat Bush, and personally donated nearly a third of that amount to anti-Bush organizations. “America under Bush,” he said, “is a danger to the world, and I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is.”
  • Demos: This organization lobbies federal and state policymakers to “addres[s] the economic insecurity and inequality that characterize American society today”; promotes “ideas for reducing gaps in wealth, income and political influence”; and favors tax hikes for the wealthy.
  • Drum Major Institute: This group describes itself as “a non-partisan, non-profit think tank generating the ideas that fuel the progressive movement,” with the ultimate aim of persuading “policymakers and opinion-leaders” to take steps that advance its vision of “social and economic justice.”
  • Earthjustice: This group seeks to place severe restrictions on how U.S. land and waterways may be used. It opposes most mining and logging initiatives, commercial fishing businesses, and the use of motorized vehicles in undeveloped areas.
  • Economic Policy Institute: This organization believes that “government must play an active role in protecting the economically vulnerable, ensuring equal opportunity, and improving the well-being of all Americans.”
  • Electronic Privacy Information Center: This organization has been a harsh critic of the USA PATRIOT Act and has joined the American Civil Liberties Union in litigating two cases calling for the FBI “to publicly release or account for thousands of pages of information about the government’s use of PATRIOT Act powers.”
  • Ella Baker Center for Human Rights: Co-founded by the revolutionary communist Van Jones, this anti-poverty organization claims that “decades of disinvestment in our cities” — compounded by “excessive, racist policing and over-incarceration” — have “led to despair and homelessness.”
  • EMILY’s List: This political network raises money for Democratic female political candidates who support unrestricted access to taxpayer-fundedabortion-on-demand.
  • Energy Action Coalition: Founded in 2004, this group describes itself as “a coalition of 50 youth-led environmental and social justice groups working together to build the youth clean energy and climate movement.” For EAC, this means “dismantling oppression” according to its principles of environmental justice.
  • Equal Justice USA: This group claims that America’s criminal-justice system is plagued by “significant race and class biases,” and thus seeks to promote major reforms.
  • Fair Immigration Reform Movement: This is the open-borders arm of the Center for Community Change.
  • Faithful America: This organization promotes the redistribution of wealth, an end to enhanced interrogation procedures vis-a-vis prisoners-of-war, the enactment of policies to combat global warming, and the creation of a government-run heath care system.
  • Families USA: This Washington-based health-care advocacy group favors ever-increasing government control of the American healthcare system.
  • Feminist Majority: Characterizing the United States as an inherently sexist nation, this group focuses on “advancing the legal, social and political equality of women with men, countering the backlash to women’s advancement, and recruiting and training young feminists to encourage future leadership for the feminist movement in the United States.”
  • Four Freedoms Fund: This organization was designed to serve as a conduit through which large foundations could fund state-based open-borders organizations more flexibly and quickly.
  • Free Exchange on Campus: This organization was created solely to oppose the efforts of one individual, David Horowitz, and his campaign to have universities adopt an “Academic Bill of Rights,” as well as todenounceHorowitz’s 2006 book The Professors. Member organizations of FEC include Campus Progress (a project of the Center for American Progress); the American Association of University Professors; theAmerican Civil Liberties UnionPeople For the American Way; the United States Student Association; theCenter for Campus Free Speech; the American Library AssociationFree Press; and the National Association of State Public Interest Research Groups.
  • Free Press: This “media reform” organization has worked closely with many notable leftists and such organizations as Media Matters for AmericaAir America RadioGlobal ExchangeCode PinkFairness and Accuracy in Reporting, the Revolutionary Communist PartyMother Jonesmagazine, and Pacifica Radio.
  • Funding Exchange: Dedicated to the concept of philanthropy as a vehicle for social change, this organization pairs leftist donors and foundations with like-minded groups and activists who are dedicated to bringing about their own version of “progressive” change and social justice. Many of these grantees assume that American society is rife with racism, discrimination, exploitation, and inequity and needs to be overhauled via sustained education, activism, and social agitation.
  • Gamaliel Foundation: Modeling its tactics on those of the radical Sixties activist Saul Alinsky, this group takes a strong stand against current homeland security measures and immigration restrictions.
  • Gisha: Center for the Legal Protection of Freedom of Movement: This anti-Israel organization seeks to help Palestinians “exercise their right to freedom of movement.”
  • Global Centre for the Responsibility to Protect: This group contends that when a state proves either unable or unwilling to protect civilians from mass atrocities occurring within its borders, it is the responsibility of the international community to intervene — peacefully if possible, but with military force if necessary.
  • Global Exchange: Established in 1988 by pro-Castro radical Medea Benjamin, this group consistently condemns America’s foreign policy, business practices, and domestic life. Following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Global Exchange advised Americans to examine “the root causes of resentment against the United States in the Arab world — from our dependence on Middle Eastern oil to our biased policy towards Israel.”
  • Grantmakers Without Borders: GWB tends to be very supportive of leftist environmental, anti-war, and civil rights groups. It is also generally hostile to capitalism, which it deems one of the chief “political, economic, and social systems” that give rise to a host of “social ills.”
  • Green For All: This group was created by Van Jonesto lobby for federal climate, energy, and economic policy initiatives.
  • Health Care for America Now: This group supports a “single payer” model where the federal government would be in charge of financing and administering the entire U.S. healthcare system.
  • Human Rights Campaign: The largest “lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender” lobbying group in the United States, HRC supports political candidates and legislation that will advance the LGBT agenda. Historically, HRC has most vigorously championed HIV/AIDS-related legislation, “hate crime” laws, the abrogation of the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy, and the legalization of gay marriage.
  • Human Rights First: This group supports open borders and the rights of illegal aliens; charges that the Patriot Act severely erodes Americans’ civil liberties; has filed amicus curiaebriefs on behalf of terror suspect Jose Padilla; and deplores the Guantanamo Bay detention facilities.
  • Human Rights Watch: This group directs a disproportionate share of its criticism at the United States and Israel. It opposes the death penalty in all cases, and supports open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.
  • I’lam: This anti-Israel NGO seeks “to develop and empower the Arab media and to give voice to Palestinian issues.”
  • Immigrant Defense Project: To advance the cause of illegal immigrants, the IDP provides immigration law backup support and counseling to New York defense attorneys and others who represent or assist immigrants in criminal justice and immigration systems, as well as to immigrants themselves.
  • Immigrant Legal Resource Center: This group claims to have helped gain amnesty for some three million illegal aliens in the U.S., and in the 1980s was part of the sanctuary movement which sought to grant asylum to refugees from the failed Communist states of Central America.
  • Immigrant Workers Citizenship Project: This open-borders organization advocates mass immigration to the U.S.
  • Immigration Advocates Network: This alliance of immigrant-rights groups seeks  to “increase access to justice for low-income immigrants and strengthen the capacity of organizations serving them.”
  • Immigration Policy Center: IPC is an advocate of open borders and contends that the massive influx of illegal immigrants into America is due to U.S. government policy, since “the broken immigration system […] spurs unauthorized immigration in the first place.”
  • Independent Media Center: This Internet-based, news and events bulletin board represents an invariably leftist, anti-capitalist perspective and serves as a mouthpiece for anti-globalization/anti-America themes.
  • Independent Media Institute: IMI administers the SPIN Project (Strategic Press Information Network), which provides leftist organizations with “accessible and affordable strategic communications consulting, training, coaching, networking opportunities and concrete tools” to help them “achieve their social justice goals.”
  • Institute for America’s Future: IAF supports socialized medicine, increased government funding for education, and the creation of an infrastructure “to ensure that the voice of the progressive majority is heard.”
  • Institute for New Economic Thinking: Seeking to create a new worldwide “economic paradigm,” this organization is staffed by numerous individuals who favor government intervention in national economies, and who view capitalism as a flawed system.
  • Institute for Policy Studies: This think tank has long supported Communist and anti-American causes around the world. Viewing capitalism as a breeding ground for “unrestrained greed,” IPS seeks to provide a corrective to “unrestrained markets and individualism.” Professing an unquestioning faith in the righteousness of the United Nations, it aims to bring American foreign policy under UN control.
  • Institute for Public Accuracy: This anti-American, anti-capitalist organization sponsored actor Sean Penn’s celebrated visit to Baghdad in 2002. It also sponsored visits to Iraq by Democratic Congressmen Nick Rahall and former Democrat Senator James Abourezk
  • Institute for Women’s Policy Research: This group views the U.S. as a nation rife with discrimination against women, and publishes research to draw attention to this alleged state of affairs. It also advocates unrestricted access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand, stating that “access to abortion is essential to the economic well-being of women and girls.”
  • International Crisis Group: One of this organization’s leading figures is its Mideast Director, Robert Malley, who was President Bill Clinton’s Special Assistant for Arab-Israeli Affairs. His analysis of the Mideast conflict is markedly pro-Palestinian.
  • J Street: This anti-Israel group warns that Israel’s choice to take military action to stop Hamas’ terrorist attacks “will prove counter-productive and only deepen the cycle of violence in the region”
  • Jewish Funds for Justice: This organization views government intervention and taxpayer funding as crucial components of enlightened social policy. It seeks to redistribute wealth from Jewish donors to low-income communities “to combat the root causes of domestic economic and social injustice.” By JFJ’s reckoning, chief among those root causes are the inherently negative by-products of capitalism – most notably racism and “gross economic inequality.”
  • Joint Victory Campaign 2004: Founded by George Soros and Harold Ickes, this group was a major fundraising entity for Democrats during the 2004 election cycle. It collected contributions (including large amounts from Soros personally) and disbursed them to two other groups, America Coming Togetherand the Media Fund, which also worked on behalf of Democrats.
  • Justice at Stake: This coalition calls for judges to be appointed by nonpartisan, independent commissions in a process known as “merit selection,” rather than elected by the voting public.
  • LatinoJustice PRLDF: This organization supports bilingual education, the racial gerrymandering of voting districts, and expanded rights for illegal aliens.
  • Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law: This group views America as an unremittingly racist nation; uses the courts to mandate race-based affirmative action preferences in business and academia; has filed briefs against the Department of Homeland Security’s efforts to limit the wholesale granting of green cards and to identify potential terrorists; condemns the Patriot Act; and calls on Americans to “recognize the contribution” of illegal aliens.
  • Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights: This organization views the United States as a nation rife with racism, sexism, and all manner of social injustice; and it uses legislative advocacy to push for “progressive change” that will create “a more open and just society.”
  • League of United Latin American Citizens: This group views America as a nation plagued by “an alarming increase in xenophobia and anti-Hispanic sentiment”; favors racial preferences; supports the legalization of illegal Hispanic aliens; opposes military surveillance of U.S. borders; opposes making English America’s official language; favors open borders; and rejects anti-terrorism legislation like the Patriot Act.
  • League of Women VotersEducation Fund: The League supports taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; supports “motor-voter” registration, which allows anyone with a driver’s license to become a voter, regardless of citizenship status; and supports tax hikes and socialized medicine.
  • League of Young Voters: This organization seeks to “empowe[r] young people nationwide” to “participate in the democratic process and create progressive political change on the local, state and national level[s].”
  • Lynne StewartDefense Committee: IRS records indicate that Soros’s Open Society Institute made a September 2002 grant of $20,000 to this organization. Stewart was the criminal-defense attorney who was later convicted for abetting her client, the “blind sheik” Omar Abdel Rahman, in terrorist activities connected with his Islamic Group.
  • Machsom Watch: This organization describesitself as “a movement of Israeli women, peace activists from all sectors of Israeli society, who oppose the Israeli occupation and the denial of Palestinians’ rights to move freely in their land.”
  • MADRE: This international women’s organization deems Americathe world’s foremost violator of human rights. As such, it seeks to “communicat[e] the real-life impact of U.S. policies on women and families confronting violence, poverty and repression around the world,” and to “demand alternatives to destructive U.S. policies.” It also advocates unrestricted access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.
  • Malcolm X Grassroots Movement: This group views the U.S. as a nation replete with racism and discrimination against blacks; seeks to establish an independent black nation in the southeastern United States; and demands reparations for slavery.
  • Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition: This group calls for the expansion of civil rights and liberties for illegal aliens; laments that illegal aliens in America are commonly subjected to “worker exploitation”; supports tuition-assistance programs for illegal aliens attending college; and characterizes the Patriot Act as a “very troubling” assault on civil liberties.
  • Media Fund: Soros played a major role in creating this group, whose purpose was to conceptualize, produce, and place political ads on television, radio, print, and the Internet.
  • Media Matters for America: This organization is a “web-based, not-for-profit … progressive research and information center” seeking to “systematically monitor a cross-section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation.” The group works closely with the Soros-backed Center for American Progress, and is heavily funded by Democracy Alliance, of which Soros is a major financier.
  • Mercy Corps: Vis a vis the Arab-Israeli conflict, Mercy Corps places all blame for Palestinian poverty and suffering directly on Israel.
  • Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund: This group advocates open borders, free college tuition for illegal aliens, lowered educational standards to accommodate Hispanics, and voting rights for criminals. In MALDEF’s view, supporters of making English the official language of the United States are “motivated by racism and anti-immigrant sentiments,” while advocates of sanctions against employers reliant on illegal labor seek to discriminate against “brown-skinned people.”
  • Meyer, Suozzi, English and Klein, PC: This influential defender of Big Labor is headed by Democrat operativeHarold Ickes.
  • Midwest Academy: This entity trains radical activists in the tactics of direct action, targeting, confrontation, and intimidation.
  • Migration Policy Institute: This group seeks to create “a North America with gradually disappearing border controls … with permanent migration remaining at moderate levels.”
  • Military Families Speak Out: This group ascribes the U.S. invasion of Iraq to American imperialism and lust for oil.
  • Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment: This group is the rebranded Missouri branch of the now-defunct, pro-socialist, community organization ACORN.
  • org: This Web-based organization supports Democratic political candidates through fundraising, advertising, and get-out-the-vote drives.
  • Foundation for Women: This group laments what it views as the widespread and enduring flaws of American society: racism, sexism, homophobia, and the violation of civil rights and liberties. It focuses its philanthropy on groups that promote affirmative action for women, unfettered access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand, amnesty for illegal aliens, and big government generally.
  • Muslim AdvocatesOpposedto U.S. counter-terrorism strategies that make use of sting operations and informants, MA characterizes such tactics as forms of “entrapment” that are inherently discriminatory against Muslims.
  • NARAL Pro-Choice America: This group supports taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand, and works to elect pro-abortion Democrats.
  • NAACPLegal Defense and Education Fund: The NAACP supports racial preferences in employment and education, as well as the racial gerrymandering of voting districts. Underpinning its support for race preferences is the fervent belief that white racism in the United States remains an intractable, largely undiminished, phenomenon.
  • The Nation Institute: This nonprofit entity sponsors leftist conferences, fellowships, awards for radical activists, and journalism internships.
  • National Abortion Federation: This group opposes any restrictions on abortion at either the state or federal levels, and champions the introduction of unrestricted abortion into developing regions of the world.
  • National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty: This group was established in 1976 as the first “fully staffed national organization exclusively devoted to abolishing capital punishment.”
  • National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy: This group depicts the United States as a nation in need of dramatic structural change financed by philanthropic organizations. It overwhelmingly promotes grant-makers and grantees with leftist agendas, while criticizing their conservative counterparts.
  • National Committee for Voting Integrity: This group opposes “the implementation of proof of citizenship and photo identification requirements for eligible electors in American elections as the means of assuring election integrity.”
  • National Council for Research on Women: This group supports big government, high taxes, military spending cuts, increased social welfare spending, and the unrestricted right to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.
  • National Council of La Raza: This group lobbies for racial preferences, bilingual education, stricter hate-crime laws, mass immigration, and amnesty for illegal aliens.
  • National Council of Women’s Organizations: This group views the United States as a nation rife with injustice against girls and women. It advocates high levels of spending for social welfare programs, and supports race and gender preferences for minorities and women in business and academia.
  • National Immigration Forum: Opposing the enforcement of present immigration laws, this organization urges the American government to “legalize” en masseall illegal aliens currently in the United States who have no criminal records, and to dramatically increase the number of visas available for those wishing to migrate to the U.S. The Forum is particularly committed to opening the borders to unskilled, low-income workers, and immediately making them eligible for welfare and social service programs.
  • National Immigration Law Center: This group seeks to win unrestricted access to government-funded social welfare programs for illegal aliens.
  • National Lawyers Guild: This group promotes open borders; seeks to weaken America’s intelligence-gathering agencies; condemns the Patriot Act as an assault on civil liberties; rejects capitalism as an unviable economic system; has rushed to the defense of convicted terrorists and their abettors; and generally opposes all U.S. foreign policy positions, just as it did during the Cold War when it sided with the Soviets.
  • National Organization for Women: This group advocates the unfettered right to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; seeks to “eradicate racism, sexism and homophobia” from American society; attacks Christianity and traditional religious values; and supports gender-based preferences for women.
  • National Partnership for Women and Families: This organization supports race and sex-based preferences in employment and education. It also advocates for the universal “right” of women to undergo taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand at any stage of pregnancy and for any reason.
  • National Priorities Project: This group supports government-mandated redistribution of wealth — through higher taxes and greater expenditures on social welfare programs. NPP exhorts the government to redirect a significant portion of its military funding toward public education, universal health insurance, environmentalist projects, and welfare programs.
  • National Public Radio: Founded in 1970 with 90 public radio stations as charter members, NPR is today a loose network of more than 750 U.S. radio stations across the country, many of which are based on college and university campuses. (source)
  • National Security Archive Fund: This group collects and publishes declassified documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act to a degree that compromises American national security and the safety of intelligence agents.
  • National Women’s Law Center: This group supports taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; lobbies against conservative judicial appointees; advocates increased welfare spending to help low-income mothers; and favors higher taxes for the purpose of generating more funds for such government programs as Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, foster care, health care, child-support enforcement, and student loans.
  • Natural Resources Defense Council: One of the most influential environmentalist lobbying groups in the United States, the Council claims a membership of one million people.
  • New America Foundation: This organization uses policy papers, media articles, books, and educational events to influence public opinion on such topics as healthcare, environmentalism, energy policy, the Mideast conflict, global governance, and much more.
  • New Israel Fund: This organization gives support to NGOs that regularly produce reports accusing Israel of human-rights violations and religious persecution.
  • NewsCorpWatch: A project of Media Matters For America, NewsCorpWatch was established with the help of a $1 million George Soros grant to Media Matters.
  • Pacifica Foundation: This entity owns and operates Pacifica Radio, awash from its birth with the socialist-Marxist rhetoric of class warfare and hatred for capitalism.
  • Palestinian Center for Human Rights: This NGO investigates and documents what it views as Israeli human-rights violations against Palestinians.
  • Peace and Security Funders Group: This is an association of more than 60 foundations that give money to leftist anti-war and environmentalist causes. Its members tend to depict America as the world’s chief source of international conflict, environmental destruction, and economic inequalities.
  • Peace Development Fund: In PDF’s calculus, the United States needs a massive overhaul of its social and economic institutions. “Recently,” explains PDF, “we have witnessed the negative effects of neo-liberalism and the globalization of capitalism, the de-industrialization of the U.S. and the growing gap between the rich and poor …”
  • People for the American Way: This group opposes the Patriot Act, anti-terrorism measures generally, and the allegedly growing influence of the “religious right.”
  • People Improving Communities Through Organizing: This group uses Alinsky-style organizing tactics to advance the doctrines of the religious left.
  • Physicians for Human Rights: This group is selectively and disproportionately critical of the United States and Israel in its condemnations of human rights violations.
  • Physicians for Social Responsibility: This is an anti-U.S.-military organization that also embraces the tenets of radical environmentalism.
  • Planned Parenthood: This group is the largest abortion provider in the United States and advocates taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.
  • Ploughshares Fund: This public grantmaking foundation opposes America’s development of a missile defense system, and contributes to many organizationsthat are highly critical of U.S. foreign policies and military ventures.
  • Prepare New York: This group supported the proposed construction of a Muslim Community Center near Ground Zero in lower Manhattan – a project known as the Cordoba Initiative, headed by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.
  • Presidential Climate Action Project: PCAP’s mission is to create a new 21st-century economy, completely carbon-free and based largely on renewable energy. A key advisor to the organization is the revolutionary communist Van Jones.
  • Prison Moratorium Project: This initiative was created in 1995 for the express purpose of working for the elimination of all prisons in the United States and the release of all inmates. Reasoning from the premise that incarceration is never an appropriate means of dealing with crime, it deems American society’s inherent inequities the root of all criminal behavior.
  • Progressive Change Campaign Committee: This organization works “to elect bold progressive candidates to federal office and to help [them] and their campaigns save money, work smarter, and win more often.”
  • Progressive States Network: PSN’s mission is to “pass progressive legislation in all fifty states by providing coordinated research and strategic advocacy tools to forward-thinking state legislators.”
  • Project Vote: This is the voter-mobilization arm of the Soros-funded ACORN. A persistent pattern of lawlessness and corruption has followed ACORN/Project Vote activities over the years.
  • Pro Publica: Claiming that “investigative journalism is at risk,” this group aims to remedy this lacuna in news publishing by “expos[ing] abuses of power and betrayals of the public trust by government, business, and other institutions, using the moral force of investigative journalism to spur reform through the sustained spotlighting of wrongdoing.”
  • Proteus Fund: This foundation directs its philanthropy toward a number of radical leftwing organizations.
  • Psychologists for Social Responsibility: This anti-capitalist, anti-corporate, anti-military, anti-American organization “uses psychological knowledge and skills to promote peace with social justice at the community, national and international levels.”
  • Public Citizen Foundation: Public Citizen seeks increased government intervention and litigation against corporations — a practice founded on the notion that American corporations, like the capitalist system of which they are a part, are inherently inclined toward corruption.
  • Public Justice Center: Viewing America as a nation rife with injustice and discrimination, this organization engages in legislative and policy advocacy to promote “systemic change for the disenfranchised.”
  • Rebuild and Renew America Now(a.k.a. Unity ’09): Spearheaded by org and overseen by longtime activist Heather Booth, this coalition was formed to facilitate the passage of President Obama’s “historic” $3.5 trillion budget for fiscal year 2010.
  • Res Publica: Seeking to advance far-left agendas in places all around the world, RP specializes in “E-advocacy,” or web-based movement-building.
  • Roosevelt Institute: Proceeding from the premise that free-market capitalism is inherently unjust and prone to periodic collapses caused by its own structural flaws, RI currently administers several major projects aimed at reshaping the American economy to more closely resemble a socialist system.
  • Secretary of State Project: This project was launched in July 2006 as an independent “527” organization devoted to helping Democrats get elected to the office of Secretary of State in selected swing, or battleground, states.
  • Sentencing Project: Asserting that prison-sentencing patterns are racially discriminatory, this initiative advocates voting rights for felons.
  • Social Justice Leadership: This organization seeks to transform an allegedly inequitable America into a “just society” by means of “a renewed social-justice movement.”
  • Shadow Democratic Party: This is an elaborate network of non-profit activist groups organized by George Soros and others to mobilize resources — money, get-out-the-vote drives, campaign advertising, and policy initiatives — to elect Democratic candidates and guide the Democratic Party towards the left.
  • Sojourners: This evangelical Christian ministry preaches radical leftwing politics. During the 1980s it championed Communist revolution in Central America and chastisedS. policy-makers for their tendency “to assume the very worst about their Soviet counterparts.” More recently, Sojourners has taken up the cause of environmental activism, opposed welfare reform as a “mean-spirited Republican agenda,” and mounted a defense of affirmative action.
  • Southern Poverty Law Center: This organization monitors the activities of what it calls “hate groups” in the United States. It exaggerates the prevalence of white racism directed against American minorities.
  • State Voices: This coalition helps independent local activist groups in 22 states work collaboratively on a year-round basis, so as to maximize the impact of their efforts.
  • Talking Transition: This was a two-week project launched in early November 2013 to “help shape the transition” to City Hall for the newly elected Democratic mayor of New York, Bill de Blasio.
  • Think Progress: This Internet blog “pushes back, daily,” by its own account, against its conservative targets, and seeks to transform “progressive ideas into policy through rapid response communications, legislative action, grassroots organizing and advocacy, and partnerships with other progressive leaders throughout the country and the world.”
  • Thunder Road Group: This political consultancy, in whose creation Soros had a hand, coordinates strategy for the Media FundAmerica Coming Together, and America Votes.
  • Tides Foundationand Tides Center: Tides is a major funder of the radical Left.
  • S. Public Interest Research Group: This is an umbrella organization of student groups that support leftist agendas.
  • Universal Healthcare Action Network: This organization supports a single-payer health care system controlled by the federal government.
  • Urban Institute: This research organization favors socialized medicine, expansion of the federal welfare bureaucracy, and tax hikes for higher income-earners.
  • USActionEducation Fund: USAction lists its priorities as: “fighting the right-wing agenda”; “building grassroots political power”; winning “social, racial and economic justice for all”; supporting a system of taxpayer-funded socialized medicine; reversing “reckless tax cuts for millionaires and corporations” which shield the “wealthy” from paying their “fair share”; advocating for “pro-consumer and environmental regulation of corporate abuse”; “strengthening progressive voices on local, state and national issues”; and working to “register, educate and get out the vote … [to] help progressives get elected at all levels of government.”
  • Voter Participation Center: This organization seeks to increase voter turnout among unmarried women, “people of color,” and 18-to-29-year-olds — demographics that are heavily pro-Democrat.
  • Voto Latino: This group seeks to mobilize Latin-Americans to become registered voters and political activists.
  • We Are America Alliance: This coalition promotes“increased civic participation by immigrants” in the American political process.
  • Working Families Party: An outgrowth of the socialist New Party, WFP seeks to help push the Democratic Party toward the left.
  • World Organization Against Torture: This coalition works closely with groups that condemn Israeli security measures against Palestinian terrorism.
  • YWCAWorld Office, Switzerland: The YWCA opposes abstinence education; supports universal access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; and opposes school vouchers.

Secondary or Indirect Affiliates of the George Soros Network

  • Center for Progressive Leadership: Funded by the Soros-bankrolled Democracy Alliance, this anti-capitalist organization is dedicated to training future leftist political leaders.
  • John Adams Project:This project of the American Civil Liberties Union was accused of: (a) having hired investigators to photograph CIA officers thought to have been involved in enhanced interrogations of terror suspects detained in Guantanamo, and then (b) showing the photos to the attorneys of those suspects, some of whom were senior al-Qaeda operatives.
  • Moving Ideas Network(MIN): This coalition of more than 250 leftwing activist groups is a partner organization of the Soros-backed Center for American Progress. MIN was originally a project of the Soros-backed American Prospect and, as such, received indirect funding from the Open Society Institute. In early 2006, The American Prospect relinquished control of the Moving Ideas Network.
  • New Organizing Institute: Created by the Soros-funded org, this group “trains young, technology-enabled political organizers to work for progressive campaigns and organizations.”
  • Think Progress: This “project” of the American Progress Action Fund, which is a “sister advocacy organization”of the Soros-funded Center for American Progressand Campus Progress, seeks to transform “progressive ideas into policy through rapid response communications, legislative action, grassroots organizing and advocacy, and partnerships with other progressive leaders throughout the country and the world.”
  • Vote for Change: Coordinated by the political action committee of the Soros-funded org, Vote for Change was a group of 41 musicians and bands that performed concerts in several key election “battleground” states during October 2004, to raise money in support of Democrat John Kerry‘s presidential bid.
  • Working Families Party: Created in 1998 to help push the Democratic Partytoward the left, this front group for the Soros-funded ACORN functions as a political party that promotes ACORN-friendly candidates.

Special thanks to writer Tim Brown for gathering these stats and breaking this story on Black Republicans Blog. Stay tuned for how to charge Soros with Treason and Sedition, seize his assets, more than $29 Billion to pay for the damages his orchestrated riots have caused, then put him in prison.
He is easy to find. Soros lives in a mansion located in Katonah, New York, and is listed as a “citizen” there. He also has an elaborate summer home in Southampton (Long Island), New York. And he has an apartment in New York City.
His office is in New York City at 250 West 55th Street, 27th floor. The phone number listed is: 212-872-1054. He also has an office in London, but this one seems to be the main one for his investment business which handles $25 billion. His personal fortune dwarfs that figure.
Print this out for reference. Then stay tuned for coming instructions regarding prosecution.
 

The Nazis in The White House: Part 1

REPOSTED FROM HOAXOFTHECENTURY.COM

By Jon Carlson

The most puzzling part of 9/11 was The German Connection. Some plotters were tried in a German Court with an apparent role in 9/11 but the Bush Administration refused to supply FBI evidence needed to convict. ‘Investors’ from Germany made inside stock purchases from their inside information of the most heinous mass murder in history supposedly $15 billion by one estimate.

People with the Bush name have a long history of financing and supplying war material to both sides of ongoing conflict the US continually foments to booster the US economy and frighten the citizens bleeding them with taxes needed to raise their families..

All the President’s Nazis (Real and Imagined): An Open Letter to Bush by Larisa Alexandrovna

Geneology studies and a confession sort of from one of Hitler’s prime associates bring into question Bush I American birth and his double citizenship with a German citizenship. Basically Bush I’s father, Prescott Bush, found guilty in WWII of trading with the enemy, was a German associate of Hitler, born in Germany, AND Bush I was also born in Germany and was trained as a German spy.

The essence of the argument is Germans have never forgiven the destruction of their country by the US and Allied military forces and infiltrated the US government via the CIA to raise havoc ever since. Clearly the ‘losers’ of WWII, Germany, Japan, and Italy, now reign supreme in the World economy while the ‘Allies’, Russia, US, Britain, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, are on their last legs. The foreign policy of the US since WWII have boosted the ‘losers’ and practically destroyed the ‘Allies’.


George Scherf (Prescott Bush) has a unique nose that allows identification in all of the photos. His son, Bush I, has unique ears and his mother’s tiny woman nose to distinguish him in the photos.

President Eisenhower doesn’t have a clue that he is talking to Nazi Germany SPY Bush I in this photo. The Nazis’ main thrust was to get back at our WWII partner Russia whom lost 20 million soldiers while overwhelming Nazi Germany psychopaths. Along with Nazi agent John Foster Dulles, Secretary of State, they convinced him Russia was the enemy No. 1. Now you know why the DC airport was named Dulles Airport. Dulles fought against reparations against Germany after WWI, was involved in setting up 700 corporations to hide Nazi plunder from WWII when it was clear Germany would lose, had a Berlin office during the war involved in financing the Nazis by US corporations such as Standard Oil of New Jersey whom sold oil to the Nazis, AND SET UP THE NAZI  OF THE AMERICA with his brother, Allen Dulles, Ike’s CIA Director.

In this photo Vice-President Nixon similarly had no clue that ‘Prescott Bush’ (German name George Scherf) was a Nazi Agent:

Then President Nixon has the son Nazi spy ‘A chip off the old block’ to make decisions wrecking America. Nixon with only a lawyer background dealing with divorces, deeds, property transference AND no trial court experience was an easy mark for the Nazis.

In this photo Eisenhower signs legislation while Connecticut Senator and Nazi Spy Prescott Bush looks on. Ike, no mental giant and an incompetent General had TWO heart attacks during his administration along with serious intestinal ailments. Ike said he, like General MacArthur, wasn’t notified beforehand of Truman’s decision to drop the Atomic Bombs on Japan who both generals claimed was defeated at that time and the lost of civilian lives was totally uncalled for. Why weren’t the bombs dropped on Germany? Dulles?


Become a Nazi Hunter: Part 2 claims that the best way to catch a Nazi was to have two Nazis feuding over money or woman. Well, Skorzeny and Scherf, Jr. (Bush I) were doing exactly that.

The Nazis in The White House Story: Part 2
Become a Nazi Hunter
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/WhiteHouseNaziStory1.htm

The Nazis in The White House Story: Part 3
Hitler Associate Exposes
Nazi Germany Born Bushes
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/911GermanConnectionBush2a.htm

The Nazis in The White House Story: Part 4
German Navy Mates Borman And Bush
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/911GermanConnectionBormann2a.htm

The Nazis In The White House Story: Part 5
How Old Is Obama?
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/HowOldObama1.htm

The Nazis In The White House Story: Part 6
Bush Ages Nix US Genealogy Claims
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/WhatBushesAges1.htm

The Nazis In The White House Story: Part 7
Three Generations of Nazi Spies Since 1930’s
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/1930sNaziSpies1.htm

The Nazis in The White House Story: Part 8
1900 Census Kills Fake Bush Genealogy
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/CensusBushGenealogy1.htm

The Nazis in The White House Story: Part 9
Clinton, Gore Could’ve Been 9/11 e
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/ClintonNo911Hero1.htm

The Nazis in The White House Story: Part 10
Nazis Anchored Carrier Off NYC On 9/11
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/USSGeorgeWashington9111.htm

The Nazis In The White House Story: Part 11
Hawaii Lies Made A President
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/911HawaiiLies2a.htm

The Nazis in The White House Story: Part 12
Bush I’s 9/11 Story Was Impossible.
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/911WhiteHouseB1.htm

The Nazis in The White House Story: Part 13
The US Was Set Up For An Oil Fall-Exxon Valdez
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/NaziExxonValdez1.htm

The Nazis In The White House Story: Part 14
Gulf Bombs Set Up BP For An Oil Fall
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/BombsGulfBP1.htm

The Nazis In The White House Story: Part 15
Gulf OPERATION SINK BP
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/GulfOperationSinkBP1.htm

The Nazis In The White House Story: Part 16
GULF SABOTAGE
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/GulfSABOTAGE1.htm

The Nazis In The White House Story: Part 17
Is Obama a Thai Buddhist President?
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/ThaiPresident1.htm

The Nazis In The White House Story: Part 18
The Pentagon 9/11 A3 Skywarrior Story
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/911PentagonStory1.htm

The Nazis in the White House Story: Part 19
The Case for an Atomic Bomb in the Gulf
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/GulfAtomicBomb1.htm

The Nazis in the White House Story: Part 20
The Nazis Do Katrina
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/Katrina1.htm

The Nazis in the White House Story: Part 21
Clinton Just Another Nazi Spy
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/ClintonNaziSpy1.htm

The Nazis in the White House Story: Part 22
Obama Birth Announcement Forged
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/ObamaBirthAnnouncementForged1.htm

STAY TUNED. MANY MORE PARTS COMING.

See http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/ Homepage


Subversive Supreme Court Favors Sodomites over Religious and States Rights

http://www.regularguy.com/?p=124

Life Becomes Unbearable for Jews, Swedish Edition

Annika Hernroth-Rothstein Political adviser and journalist based in Sweden for THE TOWER

Targeted for humiliation, prohibited from observing her religion in freedom, Annika Hernroth-Rothstein tried to draw attention to the plight of Sweden’s small Orthodox Jewish community—and that’s when the trouble really began.

A few months after I had entered high school, the boys with the boots showed up. I called them that because they had paired their historically accurate Hitler Jugend uniforms with shiny 10-hole Dr. Martens, white laces dramatically contrasting their perfect oxblood shade.

I could always hear them approaching, the boys with the boots. The sound of rubber soles against linoleum would cut through the noises of my high school hallway and as soon as I turned around, there they were.

My family had settled in that sleepy coastal town some 70 years earlier, leaving the big city for a better place to raise a family. The war came, and what happened after that I only know through scattered pictures and hushed-down questions. I was told life had become difficult, so they adapted, as the children of their children would also be taught to do.

A year ago, to the day, I went to a foreign policy conference in Washington, DC, to attend a lecture by a State Department official who specializes in countering anti-Semitism. I had come there to ask for help, and when I asked this man whose job is to monitor and combat this scourge of hate around the world what the administration was planning to do about the European crisis, his response to me was that this is not 1939 and while the situation may be dire, the sky is not falling.

As we went around the room and I stated my name he smiled and acknowledged me as the Swedish girl who applied for asylum in my own country. Funny, he said. You don’t look like any refugee I’ve ever seen. The crowd erupted in laughter, and I sat silent, waiting to be clued in on the joke. I had come to tell my story, but the man in front of me did not really listen, and as I would later learn, neither did the world.

Photo: Annika Hernroth-Rothstein

That was one year ago. A year of writing, fighting and sounding the alarm, and each time there was another isolated incident I told myself that this must be as bad as it gets.

Each time I was proven wrong.

Read More at: http://www.thetower.org/article/life-becomes-unbearable-for-jews-swedish-edition/

How an Expedition to Study a Sunken Nazi U-Boat Rescued a Reputation

reposted from nbc news

sunken

“Nazi Attack on America,” a documentary premiering Wednesday on PBS, shows how close the Nazis came to bringing World War II to America’s shores — but just as importantly, it shows how ocean explorers helped raise a Navy captain from humiliation to hero status.

“This really brings closure on a story that began a month before I was born, 73 years ago,” Robert Ballard, the oceanographer who rediscovered the Titanic 30 years ago, says at a crucial point in the hourlong show. Ballard is a key player in the story of a reputation’s restoration.

The story begins in 1942 with the U-boats — the fleet of German submarines that terrorized ship traffic between the United States and Europe. When America entered World War II, the Nazis launched “Operation Drumbeat,” an ambitious plan that used U-boats to drop off spies on the U.S. East Coast and attack shipping in the western Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico.

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VCSZYtxp4II

Hundreds of ships were sunk. Millions of tons of cargo shipments were intercepted. More than 5,000 lives were lost. But at the time, few Americans knew about the operation or how successful it was, Ballard told NBC News. “Here I was in the Navy for 30 years, and I had never heard about Operation Drumbeat,” he said.

Ballard and his team at the Ocean Exploration Trust decided to focus on Operation Drumbeat for a TV documentary produced by Nova and National Geographic. They went to the scene of one of the operation’s most notorious episodes: the July 30, 1942, sinking of the Robert E. Lee, a passenger freighter with 407 people aboard, in the Gulf of Mexico about 45 miles off the Louisiana coast.

The fate of U-166

The Robert E. Lee was sunk by a single torpedo from U-166, one of the Nazis’ most advanced submarines. But after the attack, the U-166 became prey rather than predator: The USS PC-566, a sub chaser that was escorting the Robert E. Lee, went after the U-boat under the command of a relatively inexperienced captain, Herbert G. Claudius.

The crew dropped depth charges to target the U-166, but the U-boat never surfaced. Eventually, an oil slick was seen rising to the sea’s surface. Claudius declared that the sub was sunk, and the ship’s crew turned their attention to rescuing the Robert E. Lee’s passengers.

Image: German U-boats on display for Admiral Horthy regent of Hungary guest of Hitler.Image: German U-boats on display for Admiral Horthy regent of Hungary guest of Hitler.

These German U-boats were put on display for Admiral Miklos Horthy, the regent of the Kingdom of Hungary and a guest of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler. Courtesy of Everett Historical

End of story? Hardly. Days later, there was another sub sighting in the gulf, about 140 miles away. This time, a depth charge was dropped from the air. No U-boat ever surfaced, but the Navy assumed it was the U-166. Claudius’ superiors determined that he had botched the earlier operation and let the U-boat get away. They literally gave Claudius an “F” on his report and ordered him back to anti-submarine warfare school.

“That’s pretty humiliating,” Ballard said.

That’s how the story stood for decades after the war. Then, in 2001, a petroleum survey picked up evidence of a wrecked U-boat — close to where the Robert E. Lee sank. The Navy’s marine archaeologists determined that it was the U-166. But how did the U-boat die?

Returning to the crime scene

To gather evidence, Ballard and the crew of the expedition ship Nautilus sent remotely operated vehicles down to the site last summer. The resulting video footage is reminiscent of the Titanic operation: One of the camera-equipped robots got close enough to get eerie pictures of the U-boat’s conning tower, radio antenna, periscope and gun emplacement.

“The crime scene is still there, undisturbed,” Ballard said.

The strangest thing about the scene was that the front section of the U-boat was missing. After looking around with the ROVs, Ballard and his team identified that section, some distance away from the rest of U-166. Whatever happened, happened quickly and violently enough to break the sub apart.

Image: Conning Tower Image: Conning Tower

An image from a remotely operated vehicle shows the conning tower from U-166, a Nazi U-boat that was sunk in the Gulf of Mexico in 1942.Ocean Exploration Trust – ROV 

“Nazi Attack on America” shows how experts in underwater mapping and salvage were able to put the sub back together, virtually, and pinpoint the place where an explosion must have occurred. That place was in an area of the U-boat where spare torpedoes were stored.

The conclusion? Claudius and his crew were skilled enough — and lucky enough — to have one of the depth charges drop onto the U-boat’s hull, right above where the torpedoes were kept. When the sub descended to evade the attack from the PC-566, the depth charge must have exploded, breaching the hull and setting off a catastrophic chain reaction with the torpedoes.

“This is really CSI,” Richie Kohler, a diver and U-boat aficionado who was part of Ballard’s team, says during the show.

Rescuing a reputation

Throughout the expedition, Ballard was passing along the team’s findings to Navy Adm. Jonathan Greenert, an acquaintance who happens to be the chief of U.S. naval operations. “He got into it,” Ballard said. Thanks to the new information, the Naval History and Heritage Command reviewed Claudius’ case and decided that he and the PC-566’s crew should be given credit for sinking the U-boat.

Claudius passed away in 1981, but his son Gordon received a Legion of Merit medal from Navy Secretary Ray Mabus during a ceremony in December. “It’s never too late to set the record straight,” Mabus said.

Among those who attended the ceremony were Ballard and the documentary film crew. “There wasn’t a dry eye in the house,” Ballard told NBC News.

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Navy Secretary Ray Mabus shakes hands with Herbert Gordon Claudius Jr. after presenting him with a Legion of Merit medal posthumously honoring his father, Lt. Cmdr. Herbert Claudius, during a Pentagon ceremony on Dec. 16, 2014. Adm. Jonathan Greenert, chief of naval operations, applauds at right.Julianne F. Metzger / U.S. Navy

As we all know, Operation Drumbeat ultimately failed. The United States built up its aerial and naval resources during the year that followed Pearl Harbor, and code-breakers cracked the advanced Enigma cipher (known as “Shark”) that was used by the German navy for U-boat radio transmissions. By the spring of 1943, Drumbeat had faded.

The operation’s terrible legacy endures, however, on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico — where U-166 and the ships it sank still lie. The site has been preserved as a war grave, and petroleum companies altered their plans to put a natural gas pipeline in the area.

Another infamous underwater locale is not that far away: the Macondo deep-sea drilling site, where 11 people died and millions of barrels of oil were spilled in 2010. That’s where Ballard and the Nautilus are working on their next adventure.

“We’re looking at the impact that the spill has had on deep-sea corals,” Ballard said. This time, you don’t have to wait for the TV documentary. You can watch streaming video from the ship via the Nautilus Live website.

Ballard said NautilusLive.org, like the Nova/National Geographic documentary, is aimed at getting the wider public involved in ocean adventures. The same goes for the educational expeditions organized by Ballard’s Ocean Exploration Trust.

“It’s all about using the excitement of exploration, and doing it live,” he said.

“Nazi Attack on America,” a Nova/National Geographic special, premieres on PBS on Wednesday night. Check local listings. The program is also available on DVD, and beginning Thursday it can be seen via the Nova and PBS website.

Image: Medal awardedAs we all know, Operation Drumbeat ultimately failed. The United States built up its aerial and naval resources during the year that followed Pearl Harbor, and code-breakers cracked the advanced Enigma cipher (known as “Shark”) that was used by the German navy for U-boat radio transmissions. By the spring of 1943, Drumbeat had faded.The operation’s terrible legacy endures, however, on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico — where U-166 and the ships it sank still lie. The site has been preserved as a war grave, and petroleum companies altered their plans to put a natural gas pipeline in the area.Another infamous underwater locale is not that far away: the Macondo deep-sea drilling site, where 11 people died and millions of barrels of oil were spilled in 2010. That’s where Ballard and the Nautilus are working on their next adventure.”We’re looking at the impact that the spill has had on deep-sea corals,” Ballard said. This time, you don’t have to wait for the TV documentary. You can watch streaming video from the ship via the Nautilus Live website.

Ballard said NautilusLive.org, like the Nova/National Geographic documentary, is aimed at getting the wider public involved in ocean adventures. The same goes for the educational expeditions organized by Ballard’s Ocean Exploration Trust.

“It’s all about using the excitement of exploration, and doing it live,” he said.

“Nazi Attack on America,” a Nova/National Geographic special, premieres on PBS on Wednesday night. Check local listings. The program is also available on DVD, and beginning Thursday it can be seen via the Nova and PBS website.

The Holocaust – We Must Remember – Daniel Goldhagen – Hitler's Willing Executioners

THE HOLOCAUST: WE MUST REMEMBER 

30-Hour Series of Interviews broadcast on the Roger Fredinburg Radio Program
3-11-1998 Twentieth Program in Series
Guest: Dr. Daniel Jonah Goldhagen
Book: HITLER’S WILLING EXECUTIONERS: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust
ISBN-10: 0679772685 and ISBN-13: 978- 0679772682
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Roger: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen! Thank you once again for joining us on our continuing Wednesday night series. We’re just about through this series on the holocaust. It’s been a long and arduous process, trying to get all this information out to you. I think we’ve focused quite a bit on the tragedies of Europe during World War II, the horror of the holocaust. We’ve heard the stories of people who were themselves the victims of some of the most incredible evil that mankind has ever bestowed on his fellow-man. We’ve heard numerous stories about the victims; how they survived, why they survived, those kinds of things.
Tonight we explore something quite different than we’ve talked about in the past. There is a wonderful, wonderful book, ladies and gentlemen, outlining some of the more intricate details about the people who actually did the killing, a wonderful book written by Daniel Goldhagen, titled “Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust.” Powerful stuff! I want to bring Professor Goldhagen up right now. Daniel, how are you?
Dr. Goldhagen: I’m fine, how are you?
Roger: I’m really good tonight. Listen, could you tell the folks just a little bit about who you are and where you come from, Daniel?
Dr. Goldhagen: Professionally, I’m a professor at Harvard University. I’m a political scientist. I grew up in the Boston area and lived most of my life here. I lived for about 3 years in Germany studying and doing research for my work.
Roger:  Thank you very much! The book takes a little different slant on the issue of the holocaust, as you’re well aware. It’s quite a controversial book; but, compelling! It’s won a lot of awards and comes highly recommended. What were you trying to accomplish? I mean, the title is fairly broad; but, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners”? Tell us about that! Who were they?
Dr. Goldhagen:  First, let me tell you the reason I wrote the book was to fill in a gap in our knowledge. When I began this study in the mid-1980s, you could read the entire scholarly literature on the holocaust and you would have learned almost nothing about the people who were the killers! It seems obvious that until you know a great deal about these people; who they were, where they came from, what their lives were like in the institutions of killing, what they thought about what they were doing, why they acted as they did, what choices they made, and many other things, you can’t possibly explain how and why the holocaust happened. So, I just set out to learn whatever I could and this book is the result of that.
When I went to Germany to do the research, the principal source of which is the testimony of the killers themselves, the perpetrators. Most of my book is told in their own words. I discovered things that led me to conclude that we needed to revise our understanding of the holocaust in central ways. I’ll just tell you of three of the things very quickly.
One is that many of the killers were not SS men, contrary to how they’ve often been presented. They were ordinary Germans from every walk of life.
A second fact is that, contrary to how they’ve often been represented, the number of killers was by no means small. There were at least 100,000 Germans who were intimately involved in the slaughter of Jews. The number may have been far higher.
The third fact is that in the history of the holocaust, never was a single German perpetrator himself ever killed, sent to a concentration camp, jailed or punished in any serious way for refusing to kill Jews. It simply never happened! Many of the killers knew they didn’t have to because their commanders told them they did not have to!
All of this together conveys a portrait of the perpetrators as a large number of ordinary Germans who essentially chose to slaughter Jews and chose to brutalize them as well. The question of the book is ‘Why did they do it?”
The answer, which I’ll just say briefly now, is that it is clear that it was because they were Hitlerian anti-Semite–anti-Semites of the sort that Hitler was; who really believed that Jews were evil, that they had to be eliminated, in this case exterminated, if Germany was to survive and prosper.
Roger: Let’s start at the beginning of your book and talk about what you term as “recasting” the view of anti-Semitism. I’m not even sure people realize what anti-Semitism is. It’s the hatred of Jews; but, it’s more than that!
Dr. Goldhagen:  Right. What I’m going to say about anti-Semitism pertains to other kinds of prejudice as well; so we can think about prejudice against African-Americans, prejudice against Latinos, prejudice against any other group. We have a linguistic problem, a conceptual problem which is that even though anti-Semitism or other kinds of prejudice has enormously wide ranges and differences, we only have one term to describe all the different kinds of antisemitism and that term is “anti-semitism”.   So, a person says that “Jews are stingy”, a common stereotype; unflattering, but not the worst thing in the world, you could say.
Roger: Powerful enough to have adjectives in popular society like, “he jewed me down.”
Dr. Goldhagen:  Yes, but this person is called an anti-Semite and so is Hitler. Now, a person who thinks Jews are stingy and Hitler are worlds apart in what they believe about Jews and the things they would do. Yet, we only have this one term. We use the term racism, too. A person who makes a prejudicial remark is called a racist. Someone like David Dukes is a racist.
So, we have to get beyond this initial terminology and try to focus more on the content of people’s anti-Semitism. Always ask what exactly do they believe about Jews. What do they believe the Jews alleged evil nature is and why do they believe Jews are the way they say Jews are? We can ask these questions about racism of other kinds, too. Only when we do that will we begin to understand the character and nature of anti-Semitism in a given society.
Roger: When I think of anti-Semitism I always think of the Nazis. I mean, that’s the first thing that flashes through my mind. anti-Semite = Nazi.
Dr. Goldhagen. Sure!
Roger: But, you’re saying that comparison is not necessarily accurate.
Dr. Goldhagen: I see. You’re saying when you meet an anti-Semite, when you hear of one in the U.S., you think he’s a Nazi. Is that what you’re saying?
Roger: Right.
Dr. Goldhagen: You know, it’s not entirely fair. Well, fair is not the issue. It’s not entirely accurate because there are people who think, “I don’t like certain characteristics of Jews.” You know, there are lots of group prejudices in our country. There are people who don’t like certain characteristics of Italian Americans. This can be a mild form or prejudice, bad as it is; but, a mild form. But, these same people would abhor what the Nazis did.
Roger: How could someone go from, “Gee, those bad, dumb Jews” in Germany in 1937 – to killing Jews in 1942? How could someone evolve to that level?
Dr. Goldhagen: Because in 1937 they already had very deep prejudices, I mean they had a really enormous hatred for Jews which they didn’t really act upon because there was not opportunity to act upon them. When Hitler began a program of extermination and these people found themselves in institutions of killing and were told that the Jews have to be killed, then they usually accepted these orders, believed they were right and acted upon them.
Let me give an example from American history that will make this a bit clearer. In the American south before the Civil War, whites, the vast majority of whites, believed that blacks were inferior and fit to be slaves. Right? Subhuman! Fit to be slaves! A deeply racist view of blacks that led them to do terrible things! After all, that’s almost as bad as it gets! So, this first indicates how beliefs can motivate people to do really terrible things. Then you could say, “Look, there are a lot of whites who didn’t have slaves.” They still shared the views— they just didn’t have the opportunity to have slaves, to be slaveholders, they didn’t have the money. When the opportunity arose, perhaps, when they got more money, then they were happy to own slaves.
Germans in 1937 who hated Jews had no opportunity to kill them because their leadership was not persecuting Jews in this way; but, when a program of persecution began they found they had no difficulty participating in it.
Roger: This had to be fairly gradually implemented. I mean, they didn’t just all of a sudden one day decide they were going to kill Jews! There had to be some psychological process…
Dr. Goldhagen: No, it’s not really so! The fact is that the radical persecution of Jews began in 1933 with all kinds of laws to remove them from German life, with attacks on them, but no systematic killing. The killing systematically only began in 1941, so there was a gradual escalation of the persecution. However, what you finally say about the killers, which is what my book is mainly about, you find that most of these guys were drafted into the units, they were given no particular training for the killing and they were suddenly told by their commanders one day that their job was to slaughter Jews! We have their own testimony that indicates that they did it willingly, without any process of habituation where there was ever more psychological involvement.
Roger: Alright. Try to explain to me how they viewed Jews. How did they see these people?
Dr. Goldhagen:  Okay. As I was saying before, whenever you confront anti-Semitism or another kind of prejudice or racism you should always ask— the first question should always be what exactly do they believe about Jews. That’s what you asked me.
There was a basic model of Jews which existed in Germany that most Germans accepted, not all Germans. In fact, there are exceptions to everything I’ll probably say this evening. The model had the following properties:

  1. First, Jews were believed to be fundamentally different than Germans. They were not Germans of the Jewish religion. They were deemed to be Jews, not Germans.
  2. Second, their differences were believed to reside in their biology, conceptualized in terms of race, what people today would call genetic. This meant that the nature of Jews could not be changed. They genuinely believed that Jews were the way they were because of their biology.
  3. The third element of this model was that Jews were evil, essentially devils in human form.
  4. The fourth element was that they were enormously powerful and therefore capable of doing   great harm, and were responsible for many of the harms that had befallen Germany.

When you put all this together you have a fearsome image of Jews which says that they are extremely powerful, malevolent by nature and can never be changed. If you believe this about a group of people, you think first, “We’ve got to somehow get rid of them” which is what Germans were for a long time thinking of doing. Then when someone said that the only way to do it effectively– permanently — finally, is to kill them; you could see how this could make sense to people who held these views.
Roger:  But, where does that hatred, that antisemitism, that death to the Jewish people come from?
Dr. Goldhagen:  Initially, the principal source of anti-Semitism in the Western world has been Christianity. This is very well documented. In medieval Christian society anti-Semitism in Europe was virtually universal. It was preached that Jews were Christ-killers, everyone has heard this old canard before, that they were in league with the devil, actually the servants of the devil, that they were responsible for many of the ills that befell European society. This was really axiomatic. It was preached from virtually every pulpit in Christian society. Jews were ghettoized. They were not allowed to be citizens or take full part in the life of the places where they lived.
Why Christianity developed such a deep hatred for Jews has to do with the ancient history of Christianity and the psychological need, if you want to put it that way, of the early Christians to differentiate themselves from Jews, to deprecate Judaism because the Christian claimed and believed that Christianity was supposed to replace Judaism. It was a contest, they had a common tradition, a common set of sacred texts, a common God and so built into the fabric of Christianity was a deprecation of Jews. So, this is the original source. Of course, I’m giving you a very brief account of it because it would take a long time to lay it out thoroughly.
In the modern world, this modern racial anti-Semitism which I described was a somewhat transformed form of this medieval anti-Semitism which had been pan-European. So, it’s really Christianity which produced this deep-seated, long lasting hatred in the Western world, although in the modern times this hatred of Jews has taken on its own life aside from and divorced from Christianity.
Roger: Well, I don’t know if people realize just how prevalent that it is out there. It’s unbelievable to me! It’s part of the reason we’re doing this series. I’m amazed that in 1990s America these kooks are sitting around with their little newsletters and write back and forth to each other as though they are authorities on some subject and carry on this concept of anti-Semitism to very great extremes. I don’t know how or why in the modern world when we have so much information, so much history, so much knowledge and ability, that we still find these fairly large pockets of the same kind of anti-Semitism.
Dr. Goldhagen: Well, you know, I concur with what you say. I would just want to broaden it a bit which is, when you think about the world you think, “There are people who hate another person just because his skin is darker than theirs, or hate another person because he looks different, or hate another person he happens to go to a different kind of religious building and they have different texts that they use to worship God.” As you said, when you think about it in those terms and it’s just kind of hard to believe on some level, that people actually hate for these reasons. But, as you say, the sad fact is that many do. A fundamental thing to be said about that and about the nature of prejudice is that people are prejudice not because of any real characteristics of the people who are hated; but, because of characteristics of them, the people who hate, which lead them to hate.   Most people who hate Blacks, who hate Jews or hate other groups don’t really know very much about Blacks and Jews. The hatred comes from sources within themselves and within their own groups or cultures. So if you want to try to understand the source of this hatred, you don’t look to Jews for anti-Semitism, you don’t look to African-Americans for racism to try to understand it, you don’t look to Hispanics to try understand anti-hispanic hatred, you look to the hearts and minds of the people who hate.
Roger:  Which brings us back to the core subject in your book which is those people who actually perpetrated the acts against other people in Germany. I think we’ve laid a fairly good foundation as to how the hate originally developed and carried on into the modern age; but, it still doesn’t explain to me –when you have a country, and I think Germany was widely known as a very Christian country in the 1920s and 1930s, I think even far more civilized than the United States in some ways at that time— lots of culture and theater and art and dance–Dr. Goldhagen: The pinnacle of Western civilization.
Roger: Absolutely! So, to me it just confounds the mind that those people who were really quite sophisticated and modern ended up in this incredible moral abyss that we call the holocaust.
Dr. Goldhagen: Yes; but, you see, when you live in a society where these kinds of views are the common sense of the society, where most of the people believe it, you find that what we would like to believe, mainly that education is an inoculation against prejudice, we find that it is simply not true. Many of the people who were the killers, the leaders of the killing operations were people with PhD’s, people who were lawyers, doctors were deeply involved in this, highly educated people!
If we think of the American south in our own country, we see again how this is possible. So many slave owners, white southern society had many highly cultivated, literate men and women, many of whom were slave owners, many of our founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and others held slaves.
Roger: It was part of the culture!
Dr. Goldhagen: Part of the culture–they shared many of the views that were common in their time. Some of them came to reject it ultimately because, fortunately in the U.S., there was another view of slavery, a view that existed in the North and grew ever stronger, that such was an abomination.   In Germany there was no view that contested the dominate anti-semitic one which also had powerful institutional support. Therefore, most Germans were not exposed to views which would lead them to doubt the anti-Semitism they learned at home and all the institutions of society.
Roger: I understand that; but, since we’ve brought up American history, I want to look at another aspect of American history, that is the way in which we treated the American indians.   The American indians were certainly the recipients of certain acts of genocide. No question about that! But, I don’t know that there was an ingrained, religious-based hatred of indians!
Dr. Goldhagen: Well, it doesn’t have to be religious-based. There are many things that can motivate people to kill other people. I mean, hatred also means a variety of different things. The American indians or native Americans were deemed to be non-Christian heathens who were barbaric–so there was often a religious component to it. This is what was believed. And, who were a threat to the well-being of the settlers and also an impediment to the settlers desires to settle territory, farm and do whatever else they were going to do. Killing of people, genocide, is often motivated by the belief that another group is a threat that has to be eliminated. That’s what was believed about indians.
Roger:  Okay, Daniel, we’ve got to take a break here. When we come back I want you to tell some of the stories in your book; but, first I want you to talk about fear. I hear that word used a lot to describe some of the anxieties in our society, whether it’s the gay population or whatever. I’m not sure that’s an accurate depiction of the reality so I want you to address that as well. Ladies and gentlemen, Professor Daniel Goldhagen is with us this evening. His book, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners” is fascinating! We’ll tell you how to get the book later in the program. We’ll be right back.
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Roger: Welcome back! We’re here with Dr. Daniel Goldhagen. His book is “Hitler’s Willing Executioners” is fascinating suff! Daniel, on the subject of fear, we hear that people are “phobic”; homophobic or whatever the case may be. But, I don’t find in my encounters with people who there’s an underlying fear. I wonder if you’d found that in your investigative work.
Dr. Goldhagen: You don’t find there’s an underlying fear of…..whom?
Roger: In other words, when someone says you’re homophobic, I don’t find that there’s a phobia.
Dr. Goldhagen: You know, those terms are very loosely put together. When the term homophobia, a term that has just come to be used for people who don’t like or hate people who are gay. There’s some whose obsessive hatred borders on a phobia; but, there are many who hate without having this kind of obsessive quality.
As it happened in Germany, there was a great deal of phobia that existed towards Jews, I mean the kinds of things said about Jews, the hallucinations–things that sound hallucinatory to us, which were just taken to be common sense at the time, can accurately be described as being “phobic.” Believing that Jews controlled all the levers of power in the world! The ran the Soviet Union, so it was believed! They ran the capitalist countries, so it was believed! It was said they lured German Christian children — unsuspecting girls –to defile them and use their blood for ceremonies! This kind of thing!   So there was really a phobic quality in Germany of the kind that we don’t find that often in our own society, even among people who are deeply prejudiced, though in certain groups you find it, like among the militia groups sometimes, the KKK.
Roger:  The guy waiting in the garage in his camouflage for the mailman because he knows he’s a spy! Ha, ha, ha!
Dr. Goldhagen: Yes! So, we know it exists here too.
Roger: So, take me, if you can, on a journey through the minds of some of these people in your book; what they were about, what did they care about, what did they believe in? Did they have standards of morality? Did they have convictions and ethical beliefs and those kinds of things? I’m curious about that.
Dr. Goldhagen: Sure. They had morality, just not the same morality that you and I share. They had moral views of the world, it’s just their moral views, that means that their views of what was right and wrong, were simply different from our own because they had a different map of the world, map of the social world. So, those who believed that Jews were really evil could at once be good Christians at home, treat their families well, treat their neighbors well, live most of the time good Christian lives, yet also say, “We have to get rid of the Jews and even violence and killing is permissible!”
Again, just like in the American south, there were many God-fearing people – or so they thought—who were slave owners. They just didn’t see the Blacks, the Africans, to be deserving of the same moral respect that other people were. So, you even have, for example, and this was exceptional–it wasn’t the norm; but, it’s worth presenting because it highlights this, you have the example of seven regional protestant churches in 1941 Germany putting out a public proclamation which said, “The Jews are the born enemy of Germans and mankind.” They could not be saved, therefore, by baptism because they were racially evil! Think of what a radical renunciation of fundamental Christian tenet this is, to renounce the power of baptism! They then went on to urge that the state take the severest measures against the Jews. It’s clear that these people knew that the German government had already begun to slaughter Jews systematically! So, what you have with this proclamation is something which is probably unique in the history of Christendom which is that major Christian leaders are endorsing the slaughter of other people! There were exceptions. There were many Christian leaders who disapproved of this. I just point to this as an indication of how people can at once believe that they are God-fearing, even live by their principles in regard to their own group; but, treat people who are deemed to be not in their group, or deemed to be inferior, or deemed to be an evil danger in ways that are profoundly anti-Christian!
Roger: It just absolutely stands the hair up on the back of my neck, trying to visualize this good German soldier heading home at night for a pot roast and potatoes, hanging out with the family, saying table grace, going to Bible study or church and then going back to the camps and killing Jews! I just can’t imagine what kind …. the dichotomy in the thinking process! I don’t get it! I just can’t get it!
Dr. Goldhagen: Yes, but you know it happened. It doesn’t make sense to you because you find it hard to imagine that people who were God-fearing could believe such things about Jews and then be willing to act upon them. But, I think you know…. I mean, tell me if I’m wrong; but, I think you know that these things existed, not just in Germany; but, in the American south.
Roger: My greatest fear is that we don’t learn the lesson of history. I’m afraid, Daniel, looking at the world as I view it, we haven’t learned much. When I think about…. and I’ve asked this question before, had the President of the United States and the mass media told the American citizenry what was happening in Germany, no one would have cared!
Dr. Goldhagen: Well, I don’t know about that….
Roger: It would not have been enough, it would not have been the catalyst to drag us into the war. It took Pearl Harbor and then the Japanese was the enemy and the War was fought in the south Pacific and we continued to ignore, even with the knowledge of what was going on in Hitler’s Germany.
Dr. Goldhagen: I’m not so sure that nobody….that most Americans wouldn’t have cared in some sense; but, I think your general point is well taken, or that your point is well taken and that it can even be generalized. It’s not just during the holocaust; but, in every genocide that has occurred since then, that the nation states of the world, including our own country, have done little or nothing to intervene in order to put an end to the systematic killing of men, women and children.
Roger: Alright. But, does that bring about a greater question which is; is it our place to do that? Is it our obligation to humanity?
Dr. Goldhagen: Well, you know, I certainly think that when a state or a group of people is slaughtering other people by the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, including little children, it is the moral obligation for all people to use whatever means they can in order to stop that. Yes, our obligation is to….
Roger: Alright!   Now having said that, the obvious question is; why don’t we?
Dr. Goldhagen: Why don’t we? Because the decision to do so is taken by a very small number of people; the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State and so on. These people act upon what they consider to be our “ national interests” and if a few hundred thousand people in Africa are being slaughtered, that doesn’t intrude into our “national interest”— or in Asia or lots of other places in the world. It is because our leadership has a very cold, calculating, self-interested view of the world that what I assert to be actually necessary moral action on the part of anyone who wants to consider himself to be a good Christian, a good Jews, a good moral being, that such action is not taken!
Roger: We first heard a term which was talked about in right-wing circles today called the New World Order. Adolf Hitler really spurred on this concept of a global power being the global governing nucleus of the world.
Dr. Goldhagen: That’s right.
Roger: When I look at the world today I see us heading in that direction. Of course, if we were a global community we would probably react differently to these circumstances, right?
Dr. Goldhagen: Sure.
Roger: So there’s a motivation by some to move us in that direction, and yet there’s this concept of sovereignty, especially if you’re an American, a country founded on principles far different from any other place in the world, no one wants to let go of their individuality as a nation, as a sovereign person. So, how do we hope….. because at any time in history when people have tried it’s been referred to as Machiavellian or whatever, when people have tried to conceptualize this global government where these problems might be handled differently. We always end up in great wars and things kind of collapse as we approach that concept.
Dr. Goldhagen: Right.
Roger: And yet, I think people make a legitimate argument when they say if we don’t let go of that sentiment like “this is America, it’s none of our business—- who the heck cares if a half million Rwandans are killed today,” then we’ll never get past the very thing that we object to with regard to Nazi Germany.
Dr. Goldhagen: Well, you know, you’ve raised very difficult problems. First, let me emphasize a point that you said or what you implied when you said….
Roger: We have to take a break, Daniel. Can you hold on and we’ll get back to it on the other side of the break. Don’t lose track of where we’re at here!
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Roger:  Alright, ladies and gentlemen, the book Dr. Daniel Goldhagen is a wonderful book, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust.” We’ll just barely get to this subject tonight, Daniel, as you can well imagine; but, we started in a direction and I want to go back there.
Dr. Goldhagen: Okay. I was just going to say that people should ask themselves why the life of a Rwandan child, a member of the Tutsi people in Rwanda, is any less valuable than the life of an American child.
Roger: Well, that’s a real hard question to ask yourself because we’re so detached from that.
Dr. Goldhagen: Well, one has to ask it in these terms; is that child’s life any less valuable?
Roger: Let’s go back into the minds — In your book you point out that a lot of these people who were killing agents for Hitler were not just SS officers; but, they were battalion policemen and all kinds of different …
Dr. Goldhagen: Just guys who were drafted to the duty….
Roger: Yeah! Just people! They got the orders to kill, “Hey! It’s okay to kill! We’re supposed to kill ’em!” Boom! We’ll kill them, okay?
It’s sad and hopeless; but, is there some kind of mindset where we find ourselves seeing the uselessness of other people? In other words, if I can identify — let’s say I’m a German battalion policeman with this order — if I can identify the Jew as a “useless eater” — they’re just garbage, they’re not even really people. If that now transfers through time, evolves so to speak, that subtle thinking process; now I’m an American in Hoboken and I’m watching my television set hearing about a half million colored folks in Rwanda killing each other machetes, do I find myself with that sentiment in the back of my mind? That they’re just useless people? 
Dr. Goldhagen: Well, if one does, then one is deeply prejudiced against those people. We should just say….
Roger: But, how could we sit back and watch that and not think that, and yet react, respond and act upon…
Dr. Goldhagen: But, many people do see that and they think this is an enormous, grave crime; but, the capacity of isolated individuals in this country to do much about it is really very small. If people would rouse themselves and clamor for the decision-makers in Washington….
Roger: Daniel, I’ve been here on the radio for years and I was certainly on the radio when the Rwandan incident came up, the Bosnian and the Balkan crisis. I am not at this moment recollecting any great moment of worry or calls of concern from the American people. They just didn’t seem to respond to it.
Dr. Goldhagen: You know, it’s not clear how much most people knew about it. I don’t know when you’re talking about your radio station.
Take Somalia, for example. When it became clear that there was mass starvation going on in Somalia, when we saw it every night on the news, a lot of pressure began to develop on Washington to do some intervention. Then a halt was put to it when the American soldier was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu. Nevertheless, when people were confronted by the horror, they said this is something that is just abominable!
Part of the problem is that news organizations, opinion leaders, politicians simply don’t work to inform the American people about the horrors taking place in many countries around the world. I’m not saying that if they did, everybody would immediately say that we should do something about it. In fact, many people don’t want to do anything about it. But, there are still many people in this country who would be willing to back some kind of action.
Roger:  You know, Daniel, in almost every major city in our country we have horrible inter-racial and cross-racial killings of people every day! We have the gang bangers. We have the drug culture. We have this whole new strange kind of urban jungle that’s developed in the inner-cities of America. The people that I talk to really consider that when Blacks drive by and kill each other in gang-related shootings as the “good riddance” factor! Is that something that comes from hatred? Or have we just determined, as these German men that you talked about in your book, we’ve just determined for ourselves that these people are useless anyway?
Dr. Goldhagen: First of all, there again are distinctions. Sometimes people are deemed to be “useless eaters” as the Germans put it; but, in Germany it was actually something different. The Jews were not considered to be “useless eaters.” They were considered to be a powerful force of evil who actually needed to be destroyed.
Roger: Alright, but; how would we treat inner-city blacks in America if they were on top of the obvious lack of concern for their well-being, thought of them also as evil?
Dr. Goldhagen: If they were thought of as evil, that’s a big “If” that would be acted upon. Let me ask you, do you actually think that if the government drafted just some cross-section of white American society and told people, “Go slaughter children!” Black children, Hispanic children, whoever they’re prejudiced against, any group, do you find that most people would just do this if they knew they had an option not to do it?
Roger: I think people charged with the duty would.
Dr. Goldhagen: Everyone?
Roger: I think people charged with the duty would do it.
Dr. Goldhagen: Even if they were told they didn’t have to do it?
Roger:  I think whether it’s the BATF or FBI man in Waco, Texas….
Dr. Goldhagen: Not a BATF or FBI….
Roger: Or a sniper in Ruby Ridge, Idaho….
Dr. Goldhagen:  I’m talking about regular guys who are just drafted into the duty.
Roger: Well, you know, I don’t know. I should know! I should say to you flatly, No Way! Never in America! But, I don’t know that I believe it. I believe that some would, many would.
Dr. Goldhagen: Okay. But, many would not, right?
Roger: I think that’s true.
Dr. Goldhagen: Don’t you think there would be a large segment of the American population who would be outraged by this?
Roger: I would hope so!
Dr. Goldhagen: Well, I’m convinced of it!
Roger: I think we’d probably end up in Civil War over it which would be the same thing.
Dr. Goldhagen: Look at the scenario we’re spinning.
Roger: No! I mean because when I see these things, I’m trying to look at the whole world and put it in perspective with what I can touch, feel and see in my own country. We could care more about each other, Daniel.
Dr. Goldhagen: Um hum.
Roger:  And if we could find a way to care more about each other than these things wouldn’t ever happen; but, I’m afraid, my friend, as I’ve been through about 18 weeks of this now, that it could happen again.
Dr. Goldhagen: We’ll it has happened again, not to Jews but to other people.
Roger:  To any segment of the world that someone decided to set aside.
Dr. Goldhagen: You know, there are many groups that are vulnerable because there are great hatreds and because they have enemies who contemplate doing these kinds of things.
Roger: Yes, we have our work cut out for us. Daniel, we’ve run out of the hour here, my friend. Could you tell folks real quickly how to get your book?
Dr. Goldhagen: My book is available at www.amazon.com and at every Barnes & Noble. It’s called, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners.” It’s really very, very widely available in paperback from Vintage Books.
Roger: Alright. Thank you, sir. God Bless! It’s been great to have you here. Continue of with your good work. It’s a wonderful book.
Dr. Goldhagen: Thank you! You’re doing a wonderful job, too! I enjoyed it, bye-bye!
Roger:  Ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude this week’s presentation of The Holocaust: We Must Remember. Thank you so much for participating and being here tonight. Dr. Goldhagen’s book really is a worthy read because it takes a close, intricate look into the minds of the people who actually did the killing in Nazi Germany. Whew! Powerful stuff!
Transcription is from MP3 file converted from original cassette with minimal editing by Chey Simonton.
Errors, if any, may be due to unintelligible sections of original 1997 audio technology. Unknown/unintelligible words are spelled phonetically.)

The Holocaust – We Must Remember – Daniel Goldhagen – Hitler’s Willing Executioners

THE HOLOCAUST: WE MUST REMEMBER 

30-Hour Series of Interviews broadcast on the Roger Fredinburg Radio Program

3-11-1998 Twentieth Program in Series

Guest: Dr. Daniel Jonah Goldhagen

Book: HITLER’S WILLING EXECUTIONERS: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust

ISBN-10: 0679772685 and ISBN-13: 978- 0679772682

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Roger: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen! Thank you once again for joining us on our continuing Wednesday night series. We’re just about through this series on the holocaust. It’s been a long and arduous process, trying to get all this information out to you. I think we’ve focused quite a bit on the tragedies of Europe during World War II, the horror of the holocaust. We’ve heard the stories of people who were themselves the victims of some of the most incredible evil that mankind has ever bestowed on his fellow-man. We’ve heard numerous stories about the victims; how they survived, why they survived, those kinds of things.

Tonight we explore something quite different than we’ve talked about in the past. There is a wonderful, wonderful book, ladies and gentlemen, outlining some of the more intricate details about the people who actually did the killing, a wonderful book written by Daniel Goldhagen, titled “Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust.” Powerful stuff! I want to bring Professor Goldhagen up right now. Daniel, how are you?

Dr. Goldhagen: I’m fine, how are you?

Roger: I’m really good tonight. Listen, could you tell the folks just a little bit about who you are and where you come from, Daniel?

Dr. Goldhagen: Professionally, I’m a professor at Harvard University. I’m a political scientist. I grew up in the Boston area and lived most of my life here. I lived for about 3 years in Germany studying and doing research for my work.

Roger:  Thank you very much! The book takes a little different slant on the issue of the holocaust, as you’re well aware. It’s quite a controversial book; but, compelling! It’s won a lot of awards and comes highly recommended. What were you trying to accomplish? I mean, the title is fairly broad; but, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners”? Tell us about that! Who were they?

Dr. Goldhagen:  First, let me tell you the reason I wrote the book was to fill in a gap in our knowledge. When I began this study in the mid-1980s, you could read the entire scholarly literature on the holocaust and you would have learned almost nothing about the people who were the killers! It seems obvious that until you know a great deal about these people; who they were, where they came from, what their lives were like in the institutions of killing, what they thought about what they were doing, why they acted as they did, what choices they made, and many other things, you can’t possibly explain how and why the holocaust happened. So, I just set out to learn whatever I could and this book is the result of that.

When I went to Germany to do the research, the principal source of which is the testimony of the killers themselves, the perpetrators. Most of my book is told in their own words. I discovered things that led me to conclude that we needed to revise our understanding of the holocaust in central ways. I’ll just tell you of three of the things very quickly.

One is that many of the killers were not SS men, contrary to how they’ve often been presented. They were ordinary Germans from every walk of life.

A second fact is that, contrary to how they’ve often been represented, the number of killers was by no means small. There were at least 100,000 Germans who were intimately involved in the slaughter of Jews. The number may have been far higher.

The third fact is that in the history of the holocaust, never was a single German perpetrator himself ever killed, sent to a concentration camp, jailed or punished in any serious way for refusing to kill Jews. It simply never happened! Many of the killers knew they didn’t have to because their commanders told them they did not have to!

All of this together conveys a portrait of the perpetrators as a large number of ordinary Germans who essentially chose to slaughter Jews and chose to brutalize them as well. The question of the book is ‘Why did they do it?”

The answer, which I’ll just say briefly now, is that it is clear that it was because they were Hitlerian anti-Semite–anti-Semites of the sort that Hitler was; who really believed that Jews were evil, that they had to be eliminated, in this case exterminated, if Germany was to survive and prosper.

Roger: Let’s start at the beginning of your book and talk about what you term as “recasting” the view of anti-Semitism. I’m not even sure people realize what anti-Semitism is. It’s the hatred of Jews; but, it’s more than that!

Dr. Goldhagen:  Right. What I’m going to say about anti-Semitism pertains to other kinds of prejudice as well; so we can think about prejudice against African-Americans, prejudice against Latinos, prejudice against any other group. We have a linguistic problem, a conceptual problem which is that even though anti-Semitism or other kinds of prejudice has enormously wide ranges and differences, we only have one term to describe all the different kinds of antisemitism and that term is “anti-semitism”.   So, a person says that “Jews are stingy”, a common stereotype; unflattering, but not the worst thing in the world, you could say.

Roger: Powerful enough to have adjectives in popular society like, “he jewed me down.”

Dr. Goldhagen:  Yes, but this person is called an anti-Semite and so is Hitler. Now, a person who thinks Jews are stingy and Hitler are worlds apart in what they believe about Jews and the things they would do. Yet, we only have this one term. We use the term racism, too. A person who makes a prejudicial remark is called a racist. Someone like David Dukes is a racist.

So, we have to get beyond this initial terminology and try to focus more on the content of people’s anti-Semitism. Always ask what exactly do they believe about Jews. What do they believe the Jews alleged evil nature is and why do they believe Jews are the way they say Jews are? We can ask these questions about racism of other kinds, too. Only when we do that will we begin to understand the character and nature of anti-Semitism in a given society.

Roger: When I think of anti-Semitism I always think of the Nazis. I mean, that’s the first thing that flashes through my mind. anti-Semite = Nazi.

Dr. Goldhagen. Sure!

Roger: But, you’re saying that comparison is not necessarily accurate.

Dr. Goldhagen: I see. You’re saying when you meet an anti-Semite, when you hear of one in the U.S., you think he’s a Nazi. Is that what you’re saying?

Roger: Right.

Dr. Goldhagen: You know, it’s not entirely fair. Well, fair is not the issue. It’s not entirely accurate because there are people who think, “I don’t like certain characteristics of Jews.” You know, there are lots of group prejudices in our country. There are people who don’t like certain characteristics of Italian Americans. This can be a mild form or prejudice, bad as it is; but, a mild form. But, these same people would abhor what the Nazis did.

Roger: How could someone go from, “Gee, those bad, dumb Jews” in Germany in 1937 – to killing Jews in 1942? How could someone evolve to that level?

Dr. Goldhagen: Because in 1937 they already had very deep prejudices, I mean they had a really enormous hatred for Jews which they didn’t really act upon because there was not opportunity to act upon them. When Hitler began a program of extermination and these people found themselves in institutions of killing and were told that the Jews have to be killed, then they usually accepted these orders, believed they were right and acted upon them.

Let me give an example from American history that will make this a bit clearer. In the American south before the Civil War, whites, the vast majority of whites, believed that blacks were inferior and fit to be slaves. Right? Subhuman! Fit to be slaves! A deeply racist view of blacks that led them to do terrible things! After all, that’s almost as bad as it gets! So, this first indicates how beliefs can motivate people to do really terrible things. Then you could say, “Look, there are a lot of whites who didn’t have slaves.” They still shared the views— they just didn’t have the opportunity to have slaves, to be slaveholders, they didn’t have the money. When the opportunity arose, perhaps, when they got more money, then they were happy to own slaves.

Germans in 1937 who hated Jews had no opportunity to kill them because their leadership was not persecuting Jews in this way; but, when a program of persecution began they found they had no difficulty participating in it.

Roger: This had to be fairly gradually implemented. I mean, they didn’t just all of a sudden one day decide they were going to kill Jews! There had to be some psychological process…

Dr. Goldhagen: No, it’s not really so! The fact is that the radical persecution of Jews began in 1933 with all kinds of laws to remove them from German life, with attacks on them, but no systematic killing. The killing systematically only began in 1941, so there was a gradual escalation of the persecution. However, what you finally say about the killers, which is what my book is mainly about, you find that most of these guys were drafted into the units, they were given no particular training for the killing and they were suddenly told by their commanders one day that their job was to slaughter Jews! We have their own testimony that indicates that they did it willingly, without any process of habituation where there was ever more psychological involvement.

Roger: Alright. Try to explain to me how they viewed Jews. How did they see these people?

Dr. Goldhagen:  Okay. As I was saying before, whenever you confront anti-Semitism or another kind of prejudice or racism you should always ask— the first question should always be what exactly do they believe about Jews. That’s what you asked me.

There was a basic model of Jews which existed in Germany that most Germans accepted, not all Germans. In fact, there are exceptions to everything I’ll probably say this evening. The model had the following properties:

  1. First, Jews were believed to be fundamentally different than Germans. They were not Germans of the Jewish religion. They were deemed to be Jews, not Germans.
  2. Second, their differences were believed to reside in their biology, conceptualized in terms of race, what people today would call genetic. This meant that the nature of Jews could not be changed. They genuinely believed that Jews were the way they were because of their biology.
  3. The third element of this model was that Jews were evil, essentially devils in human form.
  4. The fourth element was that they were enormously powerful and therefore capable of doing   great harm, and were responsible for many of the harms that had befallen Germany.

When you put all this together you have a fearsome image of Jews which says that they are extremely powerful, malevolent by nature and can never be changed. If you believe this about a group of people, you think first, “We’ve got to somehow get rid of them” which is what Germans were for a long time thinking of doing. Then when someone said that the only way to do it effectively– permanently — finally, is to kill them; you could see how this could make sense to people who held these views.

Roger:  But, where does that hatred, that antisemitism, that death to the Jewish people come from?

Dr. Goldhagen:  Initially, the principal source of anti-Semitism in the Western world has been Christianity. This is very well documented. In medieval Christian society anti-Semitism in Europe was virtually universal. It was preached that Jews were Christ-killers, everyone has heard this old canard before, that they were in league with the devil, actually the servants of the devil, that they were responsible for many of the ills that befell European society. This was really axiomatic. It was preached from virtually every pulpit in Christian society. Jews were ghettoized. They were not allowed to be citizens or take full part in the life of the places where they lived.

Why Christianity developed such a deep hatred for Jews has to do with the ancient history of Christianity and the psychological need, if you want to put it that way, of the early Christians to differentiate themselves from Jews, to deprecate Judaism because the Christian claimed and believed that Christianity was supposed to replace Judaism. It was a contest, they had a common tradition, a common set of sacred texts, a common God and so built into the fabric of Christianity was a deprecation of Jews. So, this is the original source. Of course, I’m giving you a very brief account of it because it would take a long time to lay it out thoroughly.

In the modern world, this modern racial anti-Semitism which I described was a somewhat transformed form of this medieval anti-Semitism which had been pan-European. So, it’s really Christianity which produced this deep-seated, long lasting hatred in the Western world, although in the modern times this hatred of Jews has taken on its own life aside from and divorced from Christianity.

Roger: Well, I don’t know if people realize just how prevalent that it is out there. It’s unbelievable to me! It’s part of the reason we’re doing this series. I’m amazed that in 1990s America these kooks are sitting around with their little newsletters and write back and forth to each other as though they are authorities on some subject and carry on this concept of anti-Semitism to very great extremes. I don’t know how or why in the modern world when we have so much information, so much history, so much knowledge and ability, that we still find these fairly large pockets of the same kind of anti-Semitism.

Dr. Goldhagen: Well, you know, I concur with what you say. I would just want to broaden it a bit which is, when you think about the world you think, “There are people who hate another person just because his skin is darker than theirs, or hate another person because he looks different, or hate another person he happens to go to a different kind of religious building and they have different texts that they use to worship God.” As you said, when you think about it in those terms and it’s just kind of hard to believe on some level, that people actually hate for these reasons. But, as you say, the sad fact is that many do. A fundamental thing to be said about that and about the nature of prejudice is that people are prejudice not because of any real characteristics of the people who are hated; but, because of characteristics of them, the people who hate, which lead them to hate.   Most people who hate Blacks, who hate Jews or hate other groups don’t really know very much about Blacks and Jews. The hatred comes from sources within themselves and within their own groups or cultures. So if you want to try to understand the source of this hatred, you don’t look to Jews for anti-Semitism, you don’t look to African-Americans for racism to try to understand it, you don’t look to Hispanics to try understand anti-hispanic hatred, you look to the hearts and minds of the people who hate.

Roger:  Which brings us back to the core subject in your book which is those people who actually perpetrated the acts against other people in Germany. I think we’ve laid a fairly good foundation as to how the hate originally developed and carried on into the modern age; but, it still doesn’t explain to me –when you have a country, and I think Germany was widely known as a very Christian country in the 1920s and 1930s, I think even far more civilized than the United States in some ways at that time— lots of culture and theater and art and dance–Dr. Goldhagen: The pinnacle of Western civilization.

Roger: Absolutely! So, to me it just confounds the mind that those people who were really quite sophisticated and modern ended up in this incredible moral abyss that we call the holocaust.

Dr. Goldhagen: Yes; but, you see, when you live in a society where these kinds of views are the common sense of the society, where most of the people believe it, you find that what we would like to believe, mainly that education is an inoculation against prejudice, we find that it is simply not true. Many of the people who were the killers, the leaders of the killing operations were people with PhD’s, people who were lawyers, doctors were deeply involved in this, highly educated people!

If we think of the American south in our own country, we see again how this is possible. So many slave owners, white southern society had many highly cultivated, literate men and women, many of whom were slave owners, many of our founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and others held slaves.

Roger: It was part of the culture!

Dr. Goldhagen: Part of the culture–they shared many of the views that were common in their time. Some of them came to reject it ultimately because, fortunately in the U.S., there was another view of slavery, a view that existed in the North and grew ever stronger, that such was an abomination.   In Germany there was no view that contested the dominate anti-semitic one which also had powerful institutional support. Therefore, most Germans were not exposed to views which would lead them to doubt the anti-Semitism they learned at home and all the institutions of society.

Roger: I understand that; but, since we’ve brought up American history, I want to look at another aspect of American history, that is the way in which we treated the American indians.   The American indians were certainly the recipients of certain acts of genocide. No question about that! But, I don’t know that there was an ingrained, religious-based hatred of indians!

Dr. Goldhagen: Well, it doesn’t have to be religious-based. There are many things that can motivate people to kill other people. I mean, hatred also means a variety of different things. The American indians or native Americans were deemed to be non-Christian heathens who were barbaric–so there was often a religious component to it. This is what was believed. And, who were a threat to the well-being of the settlers and also an impediment to the settlers desires to settle territory, farm and do whatever else they were going to do. Killing of people, genocide, is often motivated by the belief that another group is a threat that has to be eliminated. That’s what was believed about indians.

Roger:  Okay, Daniel, we’ve got to take a break here. When we come back I want you to tell some of the stories in your book; but, first I want you to talk about fear. I hear that word used a lot to describe some of the anxieties in our society, whether it’s the gay population or whatever. I’m not sure that’s an accurate depiction of the reality so I want you to address that as well. Ladies and gentlemen, Professor Daniel Goldhagen is with us this evening. His book, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners” is fascinating! We’ll tell you how to get the book later in the program. We’ll be right back.

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Roger: Welcome back! We’re here with Dr. Daniel Goldhagen. His book is “Hitler’s Willing Executioners” is fascinating suff! Daniel, on the subject of fear, we hear that people are “phobic”; homophobic or whatever the case may be. But, I don’t find in my encounters with people who there’s an underlying fear. I wonder if you’d found that in your investigative work.

Dr. Goldhagen: You don’t find there’s an underlying fear of…..whom?

Roger: In other words, when someone says you’re homophobic, I don’t find that there’s a phobia.

Dr. Goldhagen: You know, those terms are very loosely put together. When the term homophobia, a term that has just come to be used for people who don’t like or hate people who are gay. There’s some whose obsessive hatred borders on a phobia; but, there are many who hate without having this kind of obsessive quality.

As it happened in Germany, there was a great deal of phobia that existed towards Jews, I mean the kinds of things said about Jews, the hallucinations–things that sound hallucinatory to us, which were just taken to be common sense at the time, can accurately be described as being “phobic.” Believing that Jews controlled all the levers of power in the world! The ran the Soviet Union, so it was believed! They ran the capitalist countries, so it was believed! It was said they lured German Christian children — unsuspecting girls –to defile them and use their blood for ceremonies! This kind of thing!   So there was really a phobic quality in Germany of the kind that we don’t find that often in our own society, even among people who are deeply prejudiced, though in certain groups you find it, like among the militia groups sometimes, the KKK.

Roger:  The guy waiting in the garage in his camouflage for the mailman because he knows he’s a spy! Ha, ha, ha!

Dr. Goldhagen: Yes! So, we know it exists here too.

Roger: So, take me, if you can, on a journey through the minds of some of these people in your book; what they were about, what did they care about, what did they believe in? Did they have standards of morality? Did they have convictions and ethical beliefs and those kinds of things? I’m curious about that.

Dr. Goldhagen: Sure. They had morality, just not the same morality that you and I share. They had moral views of the world, it’s just their moral views, that means that their views of what was right and wrong, were simply different from our own because they had a different map of the world, map of the social world. So, those who believed that Jews were really evil could at once be good Christians at home, treat their families well, treat their neighbors well, live most of the time good Christian lives, yet also say, “We have to get rid of the Jews and even violence and killing is permissible!”

Again, just like in the American south, there were many God-fearing people – or so they thought—who were slave owners. They just didn’t see the Blacks, the Africans, to be deserving of the same moral respect that other people were. So, you even have, for example, and this was exceptional–it wasn’t the norm; but, it’s worth presenting because it highlights this, you have the example of seven regional protestant churches in 1941 Germany putting out a public proclamation which said, “The Jews are the born enemy of Germans and mankind.” They could not be saved, therefore, by baptism because they were racially evil! Think of what a radical renunciation of fundamental Christian tenet this is, to renounce the power of baptism! They then went on to urge that the state take the severest measures against the Jews. It’s clear that these people knew that the German government had already begun to slaughter Jews systematically! So, what you have with this proclamation is something which is probably unique in the history of Christendom which is that major Christian leaders are endorsing the slaughter of other people! There were exceptions. There were many Christian leaders who disapproved of this. I just point to this as an indication of how people can at once believe that they are God-fearing, even live by their principles in regard to their own group; but, treat people who are deemed to be not in their group, or deemed to be inferior, or deemed to be an evil danger in ways that are profoundly anti-Christian!

Roger: It just absolutely stands the hair up on the back of my neck, trying to visualize this good German soldier heading home at night for a pot roast and potatoes, hanging out with the family, saying table grace, going to Bible study or church and then going back to the camps and killing Jews! I just can’t imagine what kind …. the dichotomy in the thinking process! I don’t get it! I just can’t get it!

Dr. Goldhagen: Yes, but you know it happened. It doesn’t make sense to you because you find it hard to imagine that people who were God-fearing could believe such things about Jews and then be willing to act upon them. But, I think you know…. I mean, tell me if I’m wrong; but, I think you know that these things existed, not just in Germany; but, in the American south.

Roger: My greatest fear is that we don’t learn the lesson of history. I’m afraid, Daniel, looking at the world as I view it, we haven’t learned much. When I think about…. and I’ve asked this question before, had the President of the United States and the mass media told the American citizenry what was happening in Germany, no one would have cared!

Dr. Goldhagen: Well, I don’t know about that….

Roger: It would not have been enough, it would not have been the catalyst to drag us into the war. It took Pearl Harbor and then the Japanese was the enemy and the War was fought in the south Pacific and we continued to ignore, even with the knowledge of what was going on in Hitler’s Germany.

Dr. Goldhagen: I’m not so sure that nobody….that most Americans wouldn’t have cared in some sense; but, I think your general point is well taken, or that your point is well taken and that it can even be generalized. It’s not just during the holocaust; but, in every genocide that has occurred since then, that the nation states of the world, including our own country, have done little or nothing to intervene in order to put an end to the systematic killing of men, women and children.

Roger: Alright. But, does that bring about a greater question which is; is it our place to do that? Is it our obligation to humanity?

Dr. Goldhagen: Well, you know, I certainly think that when a state or a group of people is slaughtering other people by the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, including little children, it is the moral obligation for all people to use whatever means they can in order to stop that. Yes, our obligation is to….

Roger: Alright!   Now having said that, the obvious question is; why don’t we?

Dr. Goldhagen: Why don’t we? Because the decision to do so is taken by a very small number of people; the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State and so on. These people act upon what they consider to be our “ national interests” and if a few hundred thousand people in Africa are being slaughtered, that doesn’t intrude into our “national interest”— or in Asia or lots of other places in the world. It is because our leadership has a very cold, calculating, self-interested view of the world that what I assert to be actually necessary moral action on the part of anyone who wants to consider himself to be a good Christian, a good Jews, a good moral being, that such action is not taken!

Roger: We first heard a term which was talked about in right-wing circles today called the New World Order. Adolf Hitler really spurred on this concept of a global power being the global governing nucleus of the world.

Dr. Goldhagen: That’s right.

Roger: When I look at the world today I see us heading in that direction. Of course, if we were a global community we would probably react differently to these circumstances, right?

Dr. Goldhagen: Sure.

Roger: So there’s a motivation by some to move us in that direction, and yet there’s this concept of sovereignty, especially if you’re an American, a country founded on principles far different from any other place in the world, no one wants to let go of their individuality as a nation, as a sovereign person. So, how do we hope….. because at any time in history when people have tried it’s been referred to as Machiavellian or whatever, when people have tried to conceptualize this global government where these problems might be handled differently. We always end up in great wars and things kind of collapse as we approach that concept.

Dr. Goldhagen: Right.

Roger: And yet, I think people make a legitimate argument when they say if we don’t let go of that sentiment like “this is America, it’s none of our business—- who the heck cares if a half million Rwandans are killed today,” then we’ll never get past the very thing that we object to with regard to Nazi Germany.

Dr. Goldhagen: Well, you know, you’ve raised very difficult problems. First, let me emphasize a point that you said or what you implied when you said….

Roger: We have to take a break, Daniel. Can you hold on and we’ll get back to it on the other side of the break. Don’t lose track of where we’re at here!

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Roger:  Alright, ladies and gentlemen, the book Dr. Daniel Goldhagen is a wonderful book, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust.” We’ll just barely get to this subject tonight, Daniel, as you can well imagine; but, we started in a direction and I want to go back there.

Dr. Goldhagen: Okay. I was just going to say that people should ask themselves why the life of a Rwandan child, a member of the Tutsi people in Rwanda, is any less valuable than the life of an American child.

Roger: Well, that’s a real hard question to ask yourself because we’re so detached from that.

Dr. Goldhagen: Well, one has to ask it in these terms; is that child’s life any less valuable?

Roger: Let’s go back into the minds — In your book you point out that a lot of these people who were killing agents for Hitler were not just SS officers; but, they were battalion policemen and all kinds of different …

Dr. Goldhagen: Just guys who were drafted to the duty….

Roger: Yeah! Just people! They got the orders to kill, “Hey! It’s okay to kill! We’re supposed to kill ’em!” Boom! We’ll kill them, okay?

It’s sad and hopeless; but, is there some kind of mindset where we find ourselves seeing the uselessness of other people? In other words, if I can identify — let’s say I’m a German battalion policeman with this order — if I can identify the Jew as a “useless eater” — they’re just garbage, they’re not even really people. If that now transfers through time, evolves so to speak, that subtle thinking process; now I’m an American in Hoboken and I’m watching my television set hearing about a half million colored folks in Rwanda killing each other machetes, do I find myself with that sentiment in the back of my mind? That they’re just useless people? 

Dr. Goldhagen: Well, if one does, then one is deeply prejudiced against those people. We should just say….

Roger: But, how could we sit back and watch that and not think that, and yet react, respond and act upon…

Dr. Goldhagen: But, many people do see that and they think this is an enormous, grave crime; but, the capacity of isolated individuals in this country to do much about it is really very small. If people would rouse themselves and clamor for the decision-makers in Washington….

Roger: Daniel, I’ve been here on the radio for years and I was certainly on the radio when the Rwandan incident came up, the Bosnian and the Balkan crisis. I am not at this moment recollecting any great moment of worry or calls of concern from the American people. They just didn’t seem to respond to it.

Dr. Goldhagen: You know, it’s not clear how much most people knew about it. I don’t know when you’re talking about your radio station.

Take Somalia, for example. When it became clear that there was mass starvation going on in Somalia, when we saw it every night on the news, a lot of pressure began to develop on Washington to do some intervention. Then a halt was put to it when the American soldier was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu. Nevertheless, when people were confronted by the horror, they said this is something that is just abominable!

Part of the problem is that news organizations, opinion leaders, politicians simply don’t work to inform the American people about the horrors taking place in many countries around the world. I’m not saying that if they did, everybody would immediately say that we should do something about it. In fact, many people don’t want to do anything about it. But, there are still many people in this country who would be willing to back some kind of action.

Roger:  You know, Daniel, in almost every major city in our country we have horrible inter-racial and cross-racial killings of people every day! We have the gang bangers. We have the drug culture. We have this whole new strange kind of urban jungle that’s developed in the inner-cities of America. The people that I talk to really consider that when Blacks drive by and kill each other in gang-related shootings as the “good riddance” factor! Is that something that comes from hatred? Or have we just determined, as these German men that you talked about in your book, we’ve just determined for ourselves that these people are useless anyway?

Dr. Goldhagen: First of all, there again are distinctions. Sometimes people are deemed to be “useless eaters” as the Germans put it; but, in Germany it was actually something different. The Jews were not considered to be “useless eaters.” They were considered to be a powerful force of evil who actually needed to be destroyed.

Roger: Alright, but; how would we treat inner-city blacks in America if they were on top of the obvious lack of concern for their well-being, thought of them also as evil?

Dr. Goldhagen: If they were thought of as evil, that’s a big “If” that would be acted upon. Let me ask you, do you actually think that if the government drafted just some cross-section of white American society and told people, “Go slaughter children!” Black children, Hispanic children, whoever they’re prejudiced against, any group, do you find that most people would just do this if they knew they had an option not to do it?

Roger: I think people charged with the duty would.

Dr. Goldhagen: Everyone?

Roger: I think people charged with the duty would do it.

Dr. Goldhagen: Even if they were told they didn’t have to do it?

Roger:  I think whether it’s the BATF or FBI man in Waco, Texas….

Dr. Goldhagen: Not a BATF or FBI….

Roger: Or a sniper in Ruby Ridge, Idaho….

Dr. Goldhagen:  I’m talking about regular guys who are just drafted into the duty.

Roger: Well, you know, I don’t know. I should know! I should say to you flatly, No Way! Never in America! But, I don’t know that I believe it. I believe that some would, many would.

Dr. Goldhagen: Okay. But, many would not, right?

Roger: I think that’s true.

Dr. Goldhagen: Don’t you think there would be a large segment of the American population who would be outraged by this?

Roger: I would hope so!

Dr. Goldhagen: Well, I’m convinced of it!

Roger: I think we’d probably end up in Civil War over it which would be the same thing.

Dr. Goldhagen: Look at the scenario we’re spinning.

Roger: No! I mean because when I see these things, I’m trying to look at the whole world and put it in perspective with what I can touch, feel and see in my own country. We could care more about each other, Daniel.

Dr. Goldhagen: Um hum.

Roger:  And if we could find a way to care more about each other than these things wouldn’t ever happen; but, I’m afraid, my friend, as I’ve been through about 18 weeks of this now, that it could happen again.

Dr. Goldhagen: We’ll it has happened again, not to Jews but to other people.

Roger:  To any segment of the world that someone decided to set aside.

Dr. Goldhagen: You know, there are many groups that are vulnerable because there are great hatreds and because they have enemies who contemplate doing these kinds of things.

Roger: Yes, we have our work cut out for us. Daniel, we’ve run out of the hour here, my friend. Could you tell folks real quickly how to get your book?

Dr. Goldhagen: My book is available at www.amazon.com and at every Barnes & Noble. It’s called, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners.” It’s really very, very widely available in paperback from Vintage Books.

Roger: Alright. Thank you, sir. God Bless! It’s been great to have you here. Continue of with your good work. It’s a wonderful book.

Dr. Goldhagen: Thank you! You’re doing a wonderful job, too! I enjoyed it, bye-bye!

Roger:  Ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude this week’s presentation of The Holocaust: We Must Remember. Thank you so much for participating and being here tonight. Dr. Goldhagen’s book really is a worthy read because it takes a close, intricate look into the minds of the people who actually did the killing in Nazi Germany. Whew! Powerful stuff!

Transcription is from MP3 file converted from original cassette with minimal editing by Chey Simonton.

Errors, if any, may be due to unintelligible sections of original 1997 audio technology. Unknown/unintelligible words are spelled phonetically.)

Enemies on The Left, False Friends on the Right – Part 5

“Only if we desire to know the truth and desire it fervently can we stand to be told that we the people are public enemy number one. If, on the other hand, we are too far gone to accept the truth, we shall continue to lose the little freedom and property we have left. This is a promise!” The Don Bell Report 

The number one mover and shaker in the Council for National Policy was Paul Weyrich, albeit there were others with more money and power, the Coors family, and Richard Mellon Scaife, heir to the Carnegie Mellon fortune. The latter has just announced he is dying from incurable cancer. First, let’s take a look at the founder of Heritage Foundation and his affiliations. Mr. Weyrich wielded such power, and had so many organizations, that I’m only able to skim the surface of his many involvements.

Please understand that I’m writing this series to make people aware that all those great sounding rightwing groups have hidden agendas and affiliations with the Communist left and the shadow government of the CFR. We must know our enemies. In doing so, we can counter their efforts with the truth.

Paul Weyrich

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Paul M. Weyrich was born in 1942 and died in 2008. He was allegedly an American religious conservative and figurehead of the New Right. The latter has nothing to do with old-right Constitutional conservatives. The New Right is made up of neo-con Trotskyites and corporate fascists. They masquerade as “moderate” Republicans. See Part 3 of this series.

Weyrich was the Grand Poobah of the Council for National Policy. He was on the CNP Board of Governors in 1982 and 1996, and was the CNP Secretary-Treasurer as well as being on the Executive Committee in 1984-1985 and 1988. The Executive Committee decides who can become a member, and who can be an invited guest. He co-founded the conservative think tanks, the Heritage Foundation, the Free Congress Foundation, and the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). He coined the term “Moral Majority“, the name of the political action group Moral Majority that he co-founded in 1979 with fellow CNP charter member, Jerry Falwell.

The Heritage Foundation

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As major founder of the Heritage Foundation, Paul Weyrich served as the first president in 1973-1974. Funding came from Joseph Coors, and Richard Mellon Scaife.   Here is a list of Heritage’s top funders today, along with their board of trustees. Note that Carthage Foundation, Sarah Scaife Foundation, and Scaife Family Foundation are all Richard Mellon Scaife foundations. Here is Weyrich’s own story of how he and Joe Coors worked together to create Heritage Foundation.

In 1971, Joseph Coors along with Jack Wilson and Paul Weyrich, founded Analysis and Research Inc., to establish a political research entity, that being Heritage Foundation. CNP member, Joe Coors donated the first-year Heritage budget of $250,000 for 1973 from the coffers of the Coors Corporation, and for the next two years gave $200,000. He then pledged $15,000 per month, but eventually gave more. Coors and Weyrich set up the Committee for the Survival of a Free Congress, which evolved into the Free Congress Foundation, to carry out political activities, and the Heritage Foundation as a tax exempt educational research entity.

The Coors company provided Heritage Foundation with $20,000 per month during the foundation’s first year. Weyrich was Heritage president until February 28, 1974.

The Free Congress Foundation Board of Directors included Weyrich who was an ardent supporter of the Society for the Protection of Tradition, Family and Property (more on them later) and Charles Moser, an editorial adviser to a publication that praises the Nazi Waffen SS.

Weyrich, who for years represented the ongoing political interests of the Coors family in Washington, DC, sponsored and worked closely with convicted Austrian Nazi collaborator, Laszlo Pasztor, a Hungarian-American who was employed at Free Congress Foundation, the political arm of Heritage Foundation. Pasztor’s Coalitions of the Americas was housed as a subsidiary of the Free Congress Foundation. The Coors and Scaife-funded Heritage Foundation co-sponsored a 1989 forum with a pro-Nazi group, the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations.

In Martin Lee’s book, The Beast Reawakens, he refers to Pasztor as Weyrich’s right hand man:

“In addition to homegrown agitators who dredged up anti-Semitic motifs that harkened back to the 1930s, some countries had to contend with groups that were led or supported by pro-fascist exiles who repatriated from the West where they had carried on as vocal anti-Communists during the Cold War, often with CIA support. The Free Congress Foundation, founded by American far right strategist Paul Weyrich, became active in eastern European politics after the Cold War. Figuring prominently in this effort was Weyrich’s right-hand man, Laszlo Pasztor, a former leader of the pro-Nazi Arrow Cross organization in Hungary, which had collaborated with Hitler’s Reich. After serving two years in prison for his Arrow Cross activities, Pasztor found his way to the United States, where he was instrumental in establishing the ethnic-outreach arm of the Republican National Committee.”

In the 1970s, Weyrich and Coors made appointments and set up political contacts on Capitol Hill for one Franz Joseph Strauss, Bavarian Head of State who helped émigré Nazi collaborators. Another fascist, Roger Pearson, writer and organizer for the Nazi Northern League of Northern Europe joined the editorial board of Policy Review (Heritage’s monthly publication) in 1977. The following brief mention of Roger Pearson on the British Eugenics Society web site is an indicator of his abiding contribution to pure racial breeding:

“Hans K. Gunther, a Nazi anthropologist and eugenicist… was assisted by Roger Pearson of the Eugenics Society, an important figure on the racist journal, Mankind Quarterly… Mankind Quarterly is a racist journal still pumping out venom in 1994, still influenced by Roger Pearson. Josef Mengele’s co-researcher at Auschwitz, Von Verschuer, was on the editorial advisory board of this journal before his death in 1970.”

The Northern League merged newsletters with Britons Publishing Company, an anti-Semitic publisher and a major distributor of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It was theosophist, and Russian occultist, Yuliana Glinka, who cooked up the Protocols, and she was the companion and coordinator for Madam Helena Blavatsky‘s Theosophical Society. Link All anti-Semitics, please refrain from writing to me.

The Policy Review was then published by the Hoover Institute whose members include Ed Meese, CFR Condi Rice, and NAFTA’s Richard Allen. It was discontinued in 2013.

Pearson’s racialist theories are still circulated worldwide by neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations. Pearson was a recipient of white supremacist and pro-eugenics grants from Pioneer Fund to the tune of a million dollars. One of the funds’ founders was former Senator Jesse Helms, 33rd degree mason, and Council for National Policy charter member.

To get a sense of how revolutionary the political fight for power in the U.S. was then, and still is today, we need to look at a few quotes from what has been dubbed, “Paul Weyrich’s Teaching Manual,” the Free Congress Foundation’s strategic plan on how to gain control of the government of the U.S. Written by Eric Heubeck, and titled, “The Integration of Theory and Practice: A Program for the New Traditionalist Movement.” The document is no longer available at the Free Congress Foundation’s website for obvious reasons. The excerpts explain why the Dominionists are winning; the tactics they endorse are sheer Machiavellian:

Paraphrased here are the four immoral principles of the Dominionist movement as the following:

1) Falsehoods are not only acceptable, they are a necessity. The corollary is: The masses will accept any lie if it is spoken with vigor, energy and dedication. (Doesn’t this sound like the Third Reich’s Goebbels who said, “If you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it.”)

2) It is necessary to be cast under the cloak of “goodness” whereas all opponents and their ideas must be cast as “evil.”

3) Complete destruction of every opponent must be accomplished through unrelenting personal attacks. (This is an Alinsky tactic, as are others.)

4) The creation of the appearance of overwhelming power and brutality is necessary in order to destroy the will of opponents to launch opposition of any kind.

Huebeck goes on to say,  “There will be three main stages in the unfolding of this movement. The first stage will be devoted to the development of a highly motivated elite able to coordinate future activities. The second stage will be devoted to the development of institutions designed to make an impact on the wider elite and a relatively small minority of the masses. The third stage will involve changing the overall character of American popular culture.

And just what are they changing it into?

According to Jeffrey Sharlet, Hitler’s Mein Kampf and William L. Shirer’s The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich are studied as textbooks in a particular leadership training group he wrote about in Harper’s Magazine. Link

Paul Weyrich wrote an article in 1987 entitled, “A Conservative’s Lament.” In it he stated, “If we are going to be a serious nation, we need a serious system for selecting our leaders and advisors. We need some type of shadow government, in which leaders and top advisors can be identified and developed, and through which our politics can be better focused on policy choices. The world is a professional league, and we cannot win fielding amateur teams.”  What does he think the CFR is? Of course he loved the parliamentary form of government.

In Part 6, we’ll continue looking at Heritage Foundation and their UN connections, NAFTA, and the Health Care mandate. Please remember that I’m simply skimming the surface of these people involved with the Council for National Policy. Throughout the rest of this series, Heritage Foundation is at the center of the Council for National Policy.

The Holocaust – We Must Remember – Michael Shermer – Why People Believe Weird Things

THE HOLOCAUST: WE MUST REMEMBER 

30-Hour Series of Interviews broadcast on the Roger Fredinburg Radio Program

3-4-1998 Nineteenth Program in Series

Guest: Michael Shermer

Book: WHY PEOPLE BELIEVE WEIRD THINGS:

Pseudoscience, Superstition and Other Confusions of Our Times

ISBN-10: 0805070893 and ISBN-13: 978- 0805070897

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Roger: Welcome once again, ladies and gentlemen. I’m glad to continue this series. We’re about through with the series. I think there’s may two more weeks left, as I recall. It’s just been a joy for me to be able to go into this in such detail as we have; to talk to survivors and story tellers of history; fascinating, exciting, fun. As we reach a climax here, we enter into another realm and issues become a little more convoluted.

Tonight we have a really incredible guest; someone I’ve been looking forward to having on the program for some time now. His name is Michael Shermer. He’s the editor of Sceptic Magazine, the director of The Skeptic Society and he’s written an incredible book. We’ll get into more of the details of the book in the 3rd hour of the program this evening. He’s written a wonderful book called, “Why People Believe Weird Things.” He talks about pseudoscience and superstition and other confusions of our time; but, right now, because it is the holocaust series, we’re talking about pseudo-history; what people deny—and many people do deny the holocaust— and what is the truth about the subject. Michael Shermer, welcome to the program!

Michael S: Good evening.

Roger: Nice to have you here, sir! Listen, Michael, I want to focus on the  surrounding the holocaust, mostly I want to talk in-depth about this whole concept of denial which you cover quite nicely in your book.

First of all, who does say, as your chapter is entitled, that The Holocaust Never Happened and why do they say it?

Michael S: Right! Those are the two big questions! What I try to cover in “Why People Believe Weird Things,” is a lot of different subjects dealing with pseudoscience and its twin sister, what you’ve labeled as pseudo-history. I think that is a good title because pseudoscience is the attempt to use science to make it look like your claims are true even though you’re not really doing science. Pseudo-history is similar to that, in which you want to distort some past record for your present political or ideological purposes. But, you can’t just do that blindly because you want to make it look academic and scholarly.

So, the people who do this actually adapt the apparatus of scholarship by publishing in a journal called The Journal of Historical Review which sounds innocuous enough! It sounds like some academic journal. But, when you look at it you realize, “oh, wait a minute! There’s something else going on here.” So, that’s the context in my book of why that’s in there.

The short answer to your question is lots of people deny it or revise it. There’s quite a variation amongst them like there is in any social movement or group. Within the members they have their own disagreements about what they believe, their own doctrinaire arguments. But, we can kind of boil down their arguments which we’ll do in a minute. But, let me just finish answering that question.

Roger:  Michael, we’ve got two hours here. Don’t boil things down too much! I want all the details, Michael! Go ahead!

Michael S: Sure! The central group is out of Newport Beach, California. It’s called the Institute for Historical Review. They’re the ones that publish the journal, as I told you, The Journal of Historical Review. They’re in southern California, I’m in southern California, the Skeptic’s office here is in Altadena –they’re in Newport Beach –it’s an hour drive. So, like we do with anything we investigate here at Skeptic Magazine, I really want to meet the people and talk to them. I want to sit down and look them in the eyes and really get to know them as a way to find out that question of who, why and so on! Most people who have dealt with holocaust deniers would never meet them because they’re so infuriated by their claims, they feel it would be an insult to even be in the same room with them. I understand that because many of these people are survivors and there is an emotional component. For me, I felt like I wanted to get inside their head, sit down and have lunch and dinner and spend the weekend at their conference.

Roger:  Good investigative journalism!

Michael S:   Yes, I think so. Gosh! I even had one of these guys up to my house. We sat and ate pizza and talked about this stuff. Then the barriers start to break down and they start saying things that they’re never going to say on a talk show. You know, saying “those Jews, they do this and they do that!” They’ll never say that on a talk show; but, they may say it after a beer and a couple of slices of pizza.

Then a weekend of chit-chat at the conference where there’s the lectures then the interesting stuff; the break time conversations with people where you mill around the room and work your way into a little circle of people having conversations. Then you hear things like, “well, you know, there’s this Jewish conspiracy, the cabal, the cabal in England.” This is like David Irving in England, for example, the British historian who has slowly converted into becoming a holocaust revisionist or denier. I overheard him telling a couple of his fans about the Jewish cabal that was operating covertly to squelch his book sales and his book distribution in bookstores in England. You’ll never hear that written down anywhere! He’s certainly not going to say that on a talk show!

You have to actually get inside to find out what’s going on. I didn’t do it covertly. I just went in and said, “I’m Michael Shermer of Skeptic Magazine. What’s this all about?” They actually embraced me initially because they consider themselves skeptics. They’re skeptical of the holocaust.

Okay, fair enough! Anybody can be skeptical of anything they want in America. That’s fine! That’s what America is all about! But, they soon found out that skepticism isn’t a position you take on something just for grins. You have to actually investigate it. If the claims hold up with evidence, then you become skeptical of the skeptics, which is what I ended up becoming. I didn’t really know that much about what they were doing or even that much about the holocaust. I mean, I knew what most people know; but, not much beyond that. To actually understand what they’re doing, it’s not enough to understand the holocaust, you have to understand their particular claim.

Roger:  Is this Institute established around the single theory that the holocaust didn’t happen the way history depicts it?

Michael S:  That’s their main focus. In principle, no! In principle, they’re willing to investigate any interesting historical event. For example, they occasionally have articles about who really killed Lincoln or did Roosevelt and Churchill know about Pearl Harbor before it happened? That kind of stuff!

Roger:  So, it’s conspiracy-oriented?

Michael S: But, that’s really rare. Every issue has two or three articles on the holocaust, on the Jews, on Israel. There’s always that theme.

Roger: Is there that big a market for that stuff?

Michael S:  Ha, ha! Well, it’s not a huge circulation journal. As near as I’ve been able to figure, it’s around 4,000 to 5,000 people who get this journal. There is, in a sense, probably a lot of right-wing money, some neo-Nazi money, some old German money—-there’s a lot of grumpy old white guys that don’t like what they see in the world and it’s convenient to blame Jewish groups. It’s easy to target them because they’re very visual in the media, in films, on the news, in holocaust museums and Israel’s in the news a lot. So, it’s an easy target for them because they see it and read it every day. Once you have the conspiracy mindset — think of the film “Conspiracy Theory” with Mel Gibson where the guy clips newspapers every day. It’s easy to do that once you have the theory in your head to look at the newspaper and just clip things, “Oh, look! This bank hired “Goldstein”! You see? See those Jews? They’re running the banks, just like they always said!” It’s easy to find evidence to fit your theory once you have the theory. That’s what they do!

So, every issue of The Journal of Historical Review has a number of articles, even when they’re not directly related, they’re at least indirectly related. They’ll have articles that pertain to some other historical event; but, somehow the Jews are involved either directly or indirectly, and it still comes back to that. They had one last year on the Inquisition; that the Inquisition wasn’t really as bad as we’ve always heard it to be.

(Reader)          What?   Who says that?

(TJHR)            We do!

(Reader)          Why?

(TJHR)           Because the Jews have portrayed this as a much worse event than it really was!

(Reader)          What does that have to do with anything?

(TJHR)            Because the Jews are always exaggerating the traumas and miseries of history because they use that for their moral leverage against the rest of us just like they do today in order to gain moral authority for support for Israel.

That’s their line of reasoning.

Roger:  Who are some of the people involved and do they have any real impact on others around the country?

Michael S:      The major figures involved are the Director of the Institute for Historical Review is Mark Weber. He has a master’s degree in history. He’s a pretty thoughtful, intelligent and very well read individual. He’s got a huge library. His partner is a guy named Greg Raven who is pretty amateur at the whole thing. Weber’s really the brains behind it. That’s who kind of runs the show down there in Newport Beach.

Around the country and elsewhere, Ernst Zundel in Toronto is a sort of “free speech” guy. Anytime he can get media attention for his cause— You see, what happens is in Canada they don’t have the freedom of speech quite as liberally as we do so they have these “hate” laws. Most countries have “hate speech” laws and Canada has one too. It’s more liberal than Europe; but, nothing like Americans. So, they’ll nail Zundel on hate speech things because he’s got a webpage, or he publishes a newsletter, or his literature or whatever. What they don’t realize is that Zundel really likes that! That’s what he gets attention from!

The worst thing that could happen to these holocaust revisionists is if they were completely ignored. They like lawsuits and controversy! That’s how they get attention for their cause. It’s sort of an interesting thing. If somebody boycotts them or firebombs them or whatever, they use that to their advantage. For example, two years ago somebody firebombed Zundel’s house. He has a home office in Toronto. I’ve been there. It’s a two-story place. I was there right after the firebombing. When I went there a couple of big goons came to the door. Honestly, they were a couple of 6’2” blond haired, blue-eyed Aryan-type studs, his bodyguards. Ha, ha!

Roger: Ha, ha!

Michael S: They’re looking at me and I’m looking at them thinking, “Whoa! What am I getting myself into here?” They were his protectors, his bodyguards. It’s really kind of interesting. But, he was utilizing the fact that his house burnt down, getting a lot of publicity.

They were getting mass mailings out to their supporters. The mailings had a #9 postage paid return envelopes with a form to fill out with a check box to indicate how much money you wanted to donate to the cause. The cause is not just the generic issues of what really happened in the holocaust; but, now the Jews are trying to stop us! The Jews are firebombing our houses! We’ve got to do something about it! They were waving the red meat, as politicians like to say, in order to get the troops in support.

Roger: What is their basic theory. I mean, it must center around something. Is there some evidence in history I’ve overlooked that would cause people to believe that the holocaust didn’t happen the way it is depicted?

Michael S: Their theory is around a three-pronged axis. You have to really get into their literature to understand what’s going on. It’s not enough to know a lot about the holocaust to debate or argue with these guys. For example, I’ve seen historians–an historian was on Montel Williams’ show with Mark Weber and a couple of the other ones— they just ate this guy alive. He looked like an idiot and they were coming up with these obscure little minutiae points about the holocaust in camps and gas chambers. He just didn’t know! I mean, why should he?

Little points like, for example, the door on the gas chamber at u doesn’t lock. So what? Well, their argument is that if it doesn’t lock, how would they have kept the victims in there once they started pouring the gas in? Wouldn’t they try to escape? Yes. But, until you go there and investigate that particular question, which I did, and it took me six months to find out that it isn’t the original door. After the war parts and bits and pieces of the camp were dismantled. Decades later it was all put back together as a museum. You go there now and the camps are museums; sort of like monuments and museums to go pay your respect. They’re not reconstructed to be exact replicas! That door is not the original door! The original door was lost back in 1947! So, they just stuck another door there that kind of fit. That’s why it doesn’t lock.

But, if you don’t know that, and this guy on Montel’s show didn’t, you’d be sitting there on national television going, “Aw, gee! I don’t know!” and the extrapolation from that point of view is that if they couldn’t lock the door, then obviously, that wasn’t a homicidal gas chamber. That was a gas chamber probably used for delousing.   This is one of the three points.

So, point one is that the gas chambers and crematoria found at the camps were not used for mass homicide. They were used for delousing purposes only. Now, obviously, you can’t deny gas chambers and crematoria! There they are! They’re still there! You can go there right now and see them, so how can you deny that? They don’t! They just say that they had a different purpose. Let’s be honest, there’s no video tape or film of Nazis herding victims into gas chambers and gassing them! They didn’t make those kinds of films. There’s no photographs of this per se, that are really clear and it’s obvious what’s going on. There’s no order from Hitler to do this. So, proving it is more indirectly, which is what most history is, proved indirectly. You know, it’s a past event. So, that’s their first point.

The second point of the three axis is that there was no intention on the part of the Nazis to exterminate European Jewry. Yes, lot’s of them died and the revisionists all argue amongst themselves about what that number is; but, it wasn’t 6 million, they say. It was a low as half a million and as high as maybe 2 million. That’s the range they give. But, significantly lower enough that the 6 million figure looks suspiciously like a made-up conspiratorial figure constructed to make the holocaust look much worse than it really was in order to have this moral leverage over people, and so on. So, they say there was no intention on the part of the Nazis.

For example, David Irving, back in 1977 after the publication of his book, “Hitler’s War,” which is a fine piece of scholarship—this was in Irving’s early days before he’d really gone over into holocaust revisionist side—he kind of made Hitler out not to be a “good guy” or not even a “not bad guy” just a sort of incompetent fellow who really didn’t have the kind of control and power he’s always been given in the history books; that people were doing things behind the scenes that he didn’t know about. At that time Irving said, “The holocaust happened without Hitler’s approval” Goebbels did it, Goering was part of it, and Himmler, and so on; but, Hitler really didn’t know what was going on. He was out of it! He was busy with other things. So, he was kind of exonerating Hitler in a way. And, that was in the early stages!

In 1977 he put out $1,000 challenge to anybody who could find a document with Hitler’s name on it in which he orders the extermination of the Jews. Well, nobody has found such a thing.   We think we know why! Because Hitler was smart enough to know not to put things like that in writing. We know, for example, that in 1936 he did put out a written order to euthanize mentally retarded Germans! Not Jews, but actual mentally retarded Germans as part of a eugenics program of the whole Aryan program they had going! That came back to haunt him later in the courts. He got big legal hassles about that because you’re not supposed to euthanize people without the permission of the families. Sterilization also!   From that point on, he just didn’t put those things in writing. So, that’s one answer to that. That’s the second prong.

The third one is the 6 million figure. That it wasn’t 6 million. It’s the 6 million figure they doubt, the intentionality question and the mechanism, gas chambers and crematoria.

Roger: Do you know how the 6 million figure is arrived at? And, why it is that they refute it?

Michael S: I do! It’s actually a pretty interesting question. It’s far more complex than I ever would have imagined. I thought it would be something where a short chapter in a book explains it. It’s not! There’s volumes and volumes written about this.

The 6 million figure is arrived at by a triangulation process of looking at demographic figures of towns and cities and counties throughout all of Europe before the war— 1930, 1935,1940. Then looking at demographic figures after the war taken in consensus by the Allies as part of the repatriation program. They also look at, as part of the third prong of the triangulation, is shipments/exportations of people out of towns. There are some good records of this. The Nazis kept decent records of the shipments of Jews from one town to another and out of this country and into another country. Then you can also double and triple check these figures by looking at the camp records to see how many people entered any given camp, how many people escaped, how many people were deported to another camp, how many people were left upon liberation of the camp in 1944-1945. You piece all this together and it’s a complex story! Nobody actually knows how many died! So, what you end up with is a range of anywhere from 5.1 million on the low side by Raul Hilberg who is very conservative in these figures to as high 6-7 million on the more liberal estimates of that.

Roger: Alright. We’ve got to take a break. Hang on! Michael Shermer is our guest, ladies and gentlemen. He’s the editor of Skeptic Magazine. He’s the president of “The Skeptics Society”. His book which is really awesome and goes well beyond this issue is, “Why People Believe Weird Things.” We’ll come back and continue this discussion and take phone calls as this shows progresses.

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Roger:   Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. The holocaust special continues! Our guest is Michael Shermer. I want you all to pay attention when we tell you how to get this book because you’ll find, as we move into the third hour, it goes well beyond this subject; but, it’s really cool!

Really cool! “Why People Believe Weird Things” by Michael Shermer.

Michael, as I look at these issues around the holocaust— you know, being on radio over the years we get a lot of calls from really interesting people, as you might well imagine–and one of the common threads or themes seems to be this component of Christianity that the people first identify themselves as Christians and then deny the holocaust. What’s the parallel there?

Michael S:  Ah! Right! Now, the psychology gets even more interesting. There’s a long history of Christian persecutions of Jews all the way up to and including the holocaust! The Pope has only recently acknowledged that the Catholic church really should have had a bigger role in doing something to help the Jews or at least acknowledged that this was happening. It goes all the way back to who killed Christ and all this kind of stuff. You’ll sometimes see in extreme…. we’ve got to be careful here, I don’t want to say a majority of Christians think this at all; but, extreme right-wing Christian groups, particularly those that are affiliated with the Christian Identity Movement, a lot of militias, right-wing millenial cult-type groups, that’s where you see this!

Roger: Yes! These folks say, “I am a patriot!” Then you probe a little further and you find out they’re part of the Christian Identity Movement. What the hell is that?

Michael S: The holocaust denial stuff is only a small part of a much larger anti-semitic general persecution of Jews. That’s what it’s really part of. They actually don’t know that much, nor care that much about the holocaust.

Roger: But, they say the Jews are not the Jews. They say the Jews aren’t the Jews! That they’re some other race that sneaked in and claimed they’re the Jews! What is that stuff?

Michael S: Yes, that’s right.   Different groups have different versions. Degeneration, a degenerated human race, not one of the original tribes of God’s people and this sort of thing.

Roger: Is there evidence to support those arguments?

Michael S: No! Absolutely none! Actually, when you talk to a lot of these people they’ve never even met a Jew. They’ve never even sat and talked to a Jew. They have no clue what the Jewish community or culture or life is like. They get all of this from newsletters, from webpages, from gossip and rumors. They don’t know the first thing about this. It’s like this neo-Nazi fellow that came out of the closet two years ago with his book, I forget the title, something about “Fuhrer.” He was head of a neo-Nazi group in Germany and then he realized how idiotic it was and he kinda quit! They all hate him now! But, one of the things that struck me while reading his book is that he said, “I never even met a Jew, I’d never even seen a Jew and I hated Jews! When I met one I realized that this guy is just like me. He’s just a person. None of this stuff that they say is true. It’s just nonsense!” Ha, ha! It was really revealing and intellectually honest of him to say that.

Roger: Listen, I’ve got to do a couple of ads here. Then I want you to tell me, what is the best weapon to use that you’re aware of? I know you’ve been on Oprah and Donohue and all these programs. Maybe you can give us some tools to use to defend against some of this. Then we’ll take some calls. Hang on just a bit and we’ll be right back.

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Roger: Alright, Michael, just give us a few tools that we can use to combat this insanity!

Michael S: First of all, it’s a terrible idea to get into a debate with one of these very knowledgeable revisionists without learning their literature. They really know their history quite well. It’s not enough to know a lot about the holocaust, you’ve got to know their stuff as well. Again, those three specific claims can be refuted with specific answers.

For example, on the 6 million figure, we went through just how that’s calculated. They claim the people are simply not missing. They’re still alive out there somewhere. They were shipped off to Peoria or Siberia or wherever. You just simply ask, “Well, where are they?” Why aren’t they making themselves known? It’s like saying the angels exist. The burden of proof is on you to show me where they are! You can’t just say they’ve disappeared. We do have good records for that.

In the case of the intentionality question, I showed why there is not written letter from Hitler. But, we have lots and lots of indirect evidence! Cumulative evidence from SS guards, for example, who after the war, we have their letters and diaries and their own confessions in which they said, “Yes, it was really disgusting! It was gross! It was awful, the things that were going on in the camps.” They describe Auschwitz as the anus of the world! It was a horrible, horrible place–these purges and mass exterminations! They talk about that kind of stuff!
In my book I actually reproduce this letter because David Irving and I got into this big discussion, this big debate about the meaning on “ausrottung” which is the German word for extermination. According to Irving, it doesn’t really mean extermination, it means “to get rid of,” as in “shipping off to Siberia” or something like this, not “to kill”. Well, I found a letter from an SS doctor talking about lice, in which he said, “we must ausrottung the lice.” What was he talking about—shipping the lice off on little mini-trains somewhere?

Roger: Ha, ha, ha!

Michael S: No! He was talking about killing them! I also got a memo from one of the generals involved in Bastogne, you know the Battle of the Bulge, the surrounding of the American troops in Bastogne. He sent this telegram to the Nazi general there saying, “We must ausrottung the troops! One by one, ausrottung them!” Well, they’re not talking about transporting Americans back to America. KILL THEM is what they meant! So, “ausrottung” means what it means. It means to exterminate, to kill.

They get into these kind of word games so you really have to study in advance, what they’re doing. I’ve done that. In my book I’ve outlined, point by point, if this is their claim, this is the answer.   The answers are there but you have to look for them in specific cases. A holocaust historian won’t know a lot of the answers to these questions because they are irrelevant questions. Irrelevant to everybody but them.

Roger: Right, okay! So, I can take those pages out of your book I suppose and copy them off to have them handy to fight some of this stuff when it comes up. Ha, ha! Because it’ll drive you crazy, believe me! And, there’s a lot more of them out there than I thought there were. I mean, they’re out there! These little newspapers and newsletters are everywhere!

Michael S: Yes! And, webpages proliferate the information even more. See, they only have to plant a seed of doubt in people’s’ minds. They don’t have to construct a history, they just have to plant a seed of doubt about some of the historical record to get people thinking along those lines.

Roger: Let me ask you the ultimate question, then we’ll go to phones. Do these people present any danger to the rest of us or are they just nuts?

Michael S:  Oh, no! They’re not nuts! No, when you get to know them you see they’re pretty smart, regular folks–regular in a generic sense. They’re not crazy. Are they dangerous? Well, it depends what you mean by dangerous. I think in a country like America where people are free to do what they want, we’re free to refute them! That’s a good way to operate, in the light of facts, they will collapse! I’m against the idea of censoring them or locking them up or preventing them from publishing their stuff simply because that’s how they get more miles out of their cause. Just go ahead and let them publish it and we’ll refute it. That’ll be that and eventually they’ll just go away.

Roger: So, don’t make a big issue out of it is what you’re saying?

Michael S: I don’t think you need to make a big issue about it. Okay, here’s an analogy: The Flat Earth Society, right? We don’t have to bother with them. There’s like 12 people on the entire planet who think the earth is flat. No big deal!

Roger: I’ve been accused of belonging! Ha, ha!

Michael S: Ha, ha! But, when a claim gets big enough that it’s in the public eye; where there are news stories, trials, lawsuits or whatever, trying to get it into the public schools –that’s when it should get the attention of us skeptics and we want to do something about it! They are big enough to pose a threat in the sense that somebody needs to step up and refute their claims.

Roger: That makes sense to me! Real quick–how do people get your book? I know you have a new one coming out. How do they find those?

Michael S: “Why People Believe Weird Things,” is carried in virtually every bookstore in America. All the chains carry it. It’s published by W.H. Freeman. The same stores carry Skeptic Magazine and we deal with lots of different controversies, not just the holocaust stuff. That’s how they can get it, or they can order from the Skeptic Magazine office. We have a book catalogue. Our phone number is 626-794-3119 . Anyone can call and order the book or magazine or just order general information and we’re happy to send it out.

Roger:  I’ll talk to you off the air about an order, I want to get a magazine or two. Ladies and gentlemen, we’ll be right back with Michael Shermer. Hang on!

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Roger:  Micheal Shermer is here with us, ladies and gentlemen. Michael, are you ready to take some phone calls. Let’s go to Adrian in Coquille, Oregon.

Caller-Adrian: Okay, guys! Here’s from Simon Wiesenthal. I was in the 11th Armored Division when we liberated Mauthausen. “On May 5, 1945 at 10:00 am the first tanks of the 11th Armored Division of the U.S. Army arrived at the Mauthausen concentration camp. I was an inmate of the death block of the warden of the camp.”

Michael S: You were?

Caller-Adrian: No! Simon Wiesenthal was imprisoned in various ghettos and camps, the last one being u. He was put on the death block where they received no more than a cup of soup and a tiny crust of bread every day. “Some of the prisoners on the block died of starvation on the day of the liberation. Some of the soldiers of the 11th Armored Division tried to help us in every way they could, giving prisoners food from their own rations. Having found several hundred dead bodies in Mathausen, the Nazis had no longer been able to burn them in the crematorium. The Americans organized a burial in a mass grave. They rounded up all the Nazi Party members from Mauthausen and the surrounding area and made them dig trenches and bury the dead.”

Roger: Alright, Adrian, what’s the point? What are you saying?

Caller-Adrian: This is Simon Wiesenthal.

Roger: Yes, the Simon Wiesenthal Foundation. We’re all familiar with it.

Caller-Adrian:  This is the man and he says that every year they have a sort of a shrine thing over there at Mauthausen to bestow a gold medal on him. He thought it was a great thing and he spoke mainly about the liberation day at Mauthausen and their gratitude to the U.S. Army and the 11th Armored Division for liberating them. His speech was very well received by all who were present.   I was there and I saw it.

Roger: You saw it! So, you’re pretty sure it happened, Adrian? Ha, ha!

Caller-Adrian: Oh, you’d better believe it!   I was there!

Michael S: I’ll tell you what the holocaust revisionists would say to that. They’d say, “Look, we’ve never denied that hundreds of thousands of Jews died in these camps due to starvation, disease, overcrowding, overwork, and so on. Any time you see pictures or films or testimony like you just heard, that can easily be explained as part of the several hundred thousand that we’re willing to go along with that they say were killed or died.”

In fact, the revisionists even have this weird, twisted argument in which they say that the Jews were actually fairly well taken care of in the early stages of the war; but, as the war turned bad for Germany and the Allies started bombing the railroad lines, they were no longer able to get supplies to the camps and that’s when all the deaths occurred. So, it’s really the fault of the Allies for preventing the Germans from properly feeding and taking care of their prisoners.

Roger: Oh, boy! They’ve got this down, don’t they? Ha, ha, ha! Let’s go to Sam in Sarasota, Florida. Hello, Sam!

Caller-Sam: Hi! This is something you guys might find interesting. I’ve lived most of my life on Long Island. I lived in an area that was 40% Jewish. A lot of people didn’t like Jews there so later on I moved to Florida. There’s almost no Jews here; but, most people like Jews. Do you think that a little bit of familiarity breeds contempt?

Michael S: Oh, yeah. Absolutely! Of course!

Roger: I thought the Jewish population of Florida was fairly significant.

Caller-Sam: Oh, they’re down in the southeast about 7 hours from here.

Roger: Go down there to hang out in the sun, all those rich Jews who made their money in the media lying to the rest of us, right Michael? Ha, ha!

Michael S: There you go!

Caller-Sam: But, also isn’t it true that according to the Bible, the Jews persecuted the Christians before the Christians persecuted the Jews?

Michael S: Well, that’s debatable.

Caller-Sam: Skeptic Magazine is very atheistic. You guys don’t believe in the Bible. I’m talking about Roger. Does Roger believe what the Bible says?

Roger: Sam, you know where I come from on this. I think that a lot of this is Satanic or occultic and that…

Caller-Sam: No, I’m talking about the Bible, where it says that when Paul was called Saul he persecuted the Christians. Then he became a Christian…

Roger: Yes. That’s biblically accurate, Sam. Yes.

Caller-Sam: Okay, but, the guy from Skeptic Magazine is atheistic, don’t forget that.

Roger: He’s a skeptic. We’re going to talk about that when we break away from the holocaust and go to a number of other subjects that touch on Creation vs. Evolution, too. We’ll get into that, okay Sam?

Caller-Sam: Sounds good to me.

Roger: Sounds like good entertainment? That’s what I thought. Ha, ha!   Now, Michael, would you give your numbers again, please, so people can get the magazine and the books that are available in all the stores. Is your new book out yet? What is the title of it?

Michael S:   “Why People Believe Weird Things,” has only been out since June, 1997. The next book, the sequel is, “Why People Believe in God.” That won’t be out until about a year from May because I’m still finishing it.

I’m definitely not an atheist! We are not an atheist organization— by no means! In fact, just yesterday I got a 15 page single spaced typed letter from the president of Atheists United excommunicating me and my organization from the Atheists ….

Roger: Really?

Michael S: Yes, because we don’t take a hard enough line!

Roger: The Christians excommunicated me in the last few days because I cussed on the radio!

Michael S: There you go! Ha, ha!

Roger: We’ll have to start our own crowd, Michael! Losers and Loners Unite! Ha, ha!

Michael S: That’s pretty amazing!

Roger:  Michael Shermer has been our guest, ladies and gentlemen. Run down to your bookstores and get “Why People Believe Weird Things.” It’s an incredible book! Not only will you have a great laugh about some of the idiotic things people believe in; but, you’ll also learn some things that are very important will help you conduct your life in a better way, I think.

Transcription is from MP3 file converted from original cassette with minimal editing by Chey Simonton.

Errors, if any, may be due to unintelligible sections of original 1997 audio technology. Unknown/unintelligible words are spelled phonetically.)