THE HOLOCAUST: WE MUST REMEMBER
30-Hour Series of Interviews broadcast on the Roger Fredinburg Radio Program
11-19-1007 Fourth Program in Series Guest: Dr. Dorit Bader-Whiteman
The Uprooted: A Hitler Legacy: Voices of Those Who Escaped Before “The Final Solution”
ISBN-10: 0738205796 and ISBN-13: 978-0738205793
In this show Roger Fredinburg interviews Dr. Dorit Bader Whiteman about her book “The Uprooted – A Hitler Legacy” This interview includes a first hand account of the night that Austria was annexed by Germany.
Roger: Hello, everyone! I’m Roger Fredinburg, radio’s regular guy! This evening we celebrate Part 4 of our continuing series, The Holocaust: We Must Remember. We want to thank Chey Simonton and Kelleigh Nelson for all their labor and work in helping find the guests, getting the books to me and all the work they’ve done on the internet, the phone calls and the love they’ve put into this project. Thank you very much, ladies!
We’ve talked to Michael Berenbaum and got a wonderful overview of the Holocaust Museum and the things depicted there; we’ve had a couple of weeks talking with James Pool talking about who financed Hitler. The topic when you talk about the Hitler era always focuses on those who went through the camps and the hell of the Holocaust. A quite different approach to the whole subject of the war and the Hitler Legacy is found in a book , “The Uprooted: A Hitler Legacy” written by Dr. Dorit Bader-Whiteman. Dr. Whiteman is an escapee from Hitler. She arrived in with her family in New York via England in 1941. She earned a PhD in clinical psychology from New York University, has a private practice in New York and serves as editorial consultant for the Journal of Psychotherapy, was president of the Nassau Psychological Association and was until recently the Director of the Psychology Department at Flushing Hospital Mental Health Clinic which she started. She has more credentials than that; but, this book, “The Uprooted,” is what we’re going to talk about tonight! Welcome to the program, Dr. Whiteman! Hello!
Dr. Whiteman: Thank you! Hi!
Roger: It’s a pleasure to have you here! You take quite a different route in your historical documentary about what happened during Hitler’s reign.
Dr. Whiteman: Yes. I got interested in the escapees, the people who were able to leave the Nazi-occupied countries before The Final Solution started. That means they were never in death camps. They might have been in concentration camps where some of them could have died of starvation or beatings, etc.; but, they were never in the death camps where there was no hope to get out. That means they left before WW II started or very soon thereafter. They lived during the war years in no greater danger than their fellow citizens. For instance, if they were fortunate enough to come to England, they might have been bombed or had food rationed; but, they were no worse off than their fellow citizens and other English people who lived in Britain.
This is a group that has never really been talked about too much. They themselves haven’t talked about it until recently, and I can tell you why! Because they only lived under Hitler a shorter period of time and because they were able to escape, they felt kind too modest to say, ‘let me tell you about all the horrible things that happened….let me tell you about our tragedies…. let me tell you about the disasters that befell us.” No disaster could be as bad as those who perished in concentration camps and ghettos.
The reason I got interested in them is that I went visit my cousin. I, myself, was able to escape from Vienna. I went to see my cousin who lives in England. His parents, my aunt and uncle, died in concentration camps. His family, his wife and her whole family were also murdered in concentration camps. As I was sitting there talking to him, I said, “You know, we were very lucky that nothing happened to us.” I’d said that all my life, “Nothing happened”. Then I suddenly began to think about the horror we went through under Hitler; all the relatives we lost, the endless years trying to live an ordinary life, going from country to country to finally settle down. Continue reading